I have been looking at a house, they are quoting it as 20 metres/or 20
I always get confused how this is calculated for the purposes of changing
It is a decent size single storey house, lounge room is 5m x 5m, 3 bedrooms
3x3, kitchen plus 2 bathrooms.
Are the hallways and bathroom/kitchen included in that 20?
Can anyone shed light on how these realtors work?
Put it in English (American) measurements and maybe one of us can help
you. Metrics dont work for construction, and floor tiles come in 12
INCH (one foot) squares. I suppose in metric countries the tiles are
277.23095433333333cm or 34086.92100673476094573377784mm or some such
You said your room is 5m x 5m. Is that 5 miles by 5 miles or what?
Thats a huge room.
Oh wait, that might be 5metrics by 5 metrics.
Either move to America or toss your metric rulers in the garbage and
go back to measuring with your FOOT (the one on the bottom of your
If all else fails, a dollar bill is 6 inches long, use that to
measure.... Oh wait, you dont have dollar bills you probably have
pounds, which makes no sense at all because there is no dollar bill
that weighs anywhere near a pound.
You can learn how to read a ruler HERE:
My ancestors moved to America to avoid goddamn metrics.
I don't think I would say bad things about my ancestors like that.
Lets see 10mm = 1cm etc. Or 12 inches = 1 foot, 3 foot = 1 yard
1753.33 yards = 1 statue mile (nautical miles are different) how many acres
in a sq mile? add in rods, oz, pounds, quarts etc. What an illogical mess.
Joseph Meehan (sligojoe firstname.lastname@example.org) said...
... and don't forget that a "hundredweight" is 114 pounds!
If one needs a simple rule-of-thumb conversion in order to get an idea
of what a metric area is, there are about 10 square feet in a square metre
(it is actually 10.7584, but 10 is easy for a ball park figure).
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Agree, he was rude. For that reason we have not allowed him to post
here for the past 11 years. He will post again stating in 2019. He
will also have to do public service as the gerbil farm caring for the
700 gerbils born each month.
Realtors could either add internal area of each room or just take
perimeter of house. Area should only include heated space which means
unheated basements and garages are excluded. Either way, don't believe
realtors! Look around and compare. What size rooms suit you. What you
have described is small by American standards but might be big in UK.
I take it you are in Australia and the metric system is used there?
Many of us are in the U.S. and are unfamiliar with how these items are
sold there. Decades ago, there was a push to convert to metric here. Boy
I wish they did it but that fell through.
For the US, vinyl and carpet are sold by the square yard but it is not
just a raw calculation. Waste is generated depending on say the vinyl
pattern. With carpet, it has to be laid direction matching. Minimizing
piecing can generate lots of waste but makes a nice job.
You didn't ask about it but maybe of use. Roof covering is sold by the
square. A square is 100 square feet. But the bundles here are 1/3 of a
square which means 3 bundles to the square.
Google has a nice conversion feature where in the search bar you put in
somewhat natural language and it does the conversion. Not sure if this
will help you. But I'm bet a lot of people will see this and think holy
shit. That's cool :-)
25 square meters to square yards
25 (square meters) = 29.8997512 square yards
750 ml to quarts
750 ml = 0.792516154 US quarts
In the US, the size of a house in calculated by measuring the outside
of the exterior walls, so when we say a house is 2,000 square feet,
we're referring to the "footprint" of the house. The second floor is
measured the same way, but we don't include stairs or spaces that open
up to the ground floor.
If your house is 20 square meters, that measurement probably includes
the space taken up by the walls, closets, halls, baths, etc. For
flooring, you probably need to measure the individual rooms and then
add a waste factor, usually about 10% (more or less for different
flooring types). This type of calculation is much simpler if you
convert everything to yards, feet, and inches and do your calculations
using mirror images of Roman numerals.
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the police are looking for hardened criminals....
In Australia before the 1960s it was common to quote the size of a
house in "squares" . I thought that this definition had long ago
One "square" was equivalent to 100 square feet. A house of 20
"squares" was 2000 square feet.
Since this country converted to the metric system of measurement a
long, long time ago, the area should be quoted in square meters.
To convert square feet to square metres multiply by .093
20 "squares" = 2000 square feet = 186 square metres. A reasonably
sized 3 bedroom house.
The average size house in Australia has gone from 130 sq metres in
1970 to about 220 sq metres today.
I suggest that you get your real estate people to quote in square
meters only. If you need to get any tradesmen in to do any work, or
you need to get the place surveyed, or you need to inform your bank to
secure a mortgage, they will all work in square meters.
Yeah, that sounds a _lot_ more likely that my idea of it being
equivalent to 400 square meters and which seems far more likely for a
3-bedroom house. Funny thing is that this "square" measure is still used
in the US for exactly one purpose that I can think of: measuring the
area of a roof for materials (X bundles of shingles covers a square). I
just went through the trouble and expense of re-roofing my house this
spring and that definition should have stayed with me considering the
amount of financial pain involved.
The term "squares" pertaining to houses actually dates back quite
along time and was probably first used in Britain (where else?) It was
based on the idea that the average room in the average house was
10ft x 10 ft.
Of course this did not always translate to other places, such as
Australia, where houses quickly became larger. The practice of
quoting house size using this somewhat archaic measure still persists.
Many of the real estate web sites still use it. It is stupid,
confusing and probably technically illegal since the conversion to the
Really, the safest thing to do is to ask a local realtor what the local
law (or custom) dictates for such measurements and to try to get the
answer in writing. I puzzled for a bit and came to no firm conclusions
about what the 20 squares might mean. Clearly the lounge at 5 X 5 covers
25 square meters so the fallback (as I imagine it anyway) is that the
area of the home is listed as equivalent to a 20 X 20 square or 400
square meters and that would suggest a very generously dimensioned home
for three bedrooms (3600 square feet for the metrically obtuse reader).
Locally in the US there seems to be two schools of thought on what area
measurements really mean, perhaps more if you get into rounding
procedures. Most realtors will simply say that the area they quote is
"finished" space but that is vague enough to allow many interpretations.
Does it mean the sum of the areas of all rooms? Where does that leave
the hallways and closets and such? Is it the area derived from outside
measurements? Where does that leave the area covered by all of the
inside and outside walls? As if buying a home wasn't confusing enough...
Why do people make life difficult for themselves! The metric system was
adopted in Australia in the 1960's to simplify awkward old British
Imperial systems of measurement & currency. The term 'square' belongs to
the British Imperial system, and as correctly described by Avery above, 1
'square = 100 square feet. Therefore, it has no correlation to the metric
system in Australia or for that matter any other metricated society, unless
one reaches for their abacus and calculates that the conversion of 20
'squares amounts to 186m2. So what does that achieve? Wouldn't sticking
with square metres be less confusing and time consuming?
Me thinks that the term lingers on in Australia to confuse the consumer who
in most cases wouldn't know a 'square' from a 'round' and consequently the
charge of a service based on an outdated Imperial measurement such as a
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