Fallout Shelter Supplies

[FatterDumber& Happier Moe]

Big screen TV, Beer, potato chips

[The Daring Dufas]

Tin is an expensive metal, use aluminum foil which is readily available. :-)

TDD

[Pete C.]

The half life on the iodine is listed as 8 days, the cesium around 30 years.

[A. Baum]

Thanks. I guess he needs 30 years of supplies then. I was just going on what the news out of Japan reported. That being radioactive contaminaton would las hundreds of years. Must have been talking about Uranium or Plutonium and not the isotopes created in the spent fuel rods.

[notbob]

Utter nonesense. Why would everyone need to wear whiteface when they'd all be white as goth geeks, naturally? At least it managed to avoid the annoying dirt-n-sticks cheapness of ALL those post Road Warrior cliches. Plus, Jason Robards makes my skin crawl in any movie. He's a hundred times scarier in The Night They Raided Minskey's. That was some serious clown phobic scary!

nb

[Hell Toupee]

Half-life describes how long it takes for _half_ of a radioactive sample to decay.

The half-life of cesium-137 is 30 years, so after 30 years, 50% of the original amount is still left. After 60 years, 75% is gone, but 25% of the original amount is left in the environment. After 180 years, roughly 99.4% is gone, a bit more than 1.5% is left in the environment.

You can see where the iodide isn't nearly as much of a concern. Half is gone after 8 days, but it's mostly gone after 48 days.

Just to keep things in perspective, here's a radiation dose chart:

[Sjouke Burry]

A sanity check.

[clare]

Your Lithium /Prozac or whatever. You are being paranoid.

[Jerry - OHIO]

BOOOOOOOZ

[Jerry - OHIO]

HOOKERS,cause you will be dead in 1950 hole in the ground!!!! Jr

[mike]

You need to rethink your objectives, priorities an strategies...

Yes, Yes, Yes, nothing beats the smell of the catbox in the morning. Seriously? The world is coming to an end and you're gonna save the cat?

, cookware, bottled water,

Better be a shortwave radio with an outside antenna.

, spare batteries, spare car battery for

You'd better have a solar charger. candles, matches + lighters, first aid kit with

Yes, Mr. Pharmacist, I know that's a 10 year supply. Whaddyamean I can't get it? hand

Where you gonna empty the thing when it fills up? Calendar, wrist watch,

You think you're gonna survive a nuclear winter??? I

How long you think the power will be up? and

How long you think TV will be up? set and laptop computer, along with putting an antenna

How long you think cellphones and landlines will be up? But I understand your compulsion to tweet the high points of your day. I hope to pipe in an actual water line from our well

Better make that a hand pump. And water is neither created nor destroyed...just polluted. Better work on a wastewater system.

Yes, you are missing some very important stuff.

1) Shotgun and a BUNCH of shells. How long you think it will be before the Roving Band Of Marauders finds your shelter and supplies? 2)CB radio is gonna be the major viable communication. Most everything else will be gone sooner or later. Will also help the RBOM to find you.

And what if you do survive? What then? Planting a garden won't do YOU much good if I find it.

The post nuclear world will be populated by groups of people who are not afraid to kill you and the horse you rode in on to survive. Your only hope is to join such a group NOW!

[Ed Pawlowski]

"Country" wrote

That shelter sure would be cozy with a couple of cows and pigs.

[Steve B]

At last. Someone with some sense.

Steve

[HeyBub]

[snip]

Walmart did several computer simulations on what their stores ran out of during Florida hurricanes. The top two items were:

• Beer

• Strawberry Pop Tarts

Now, as soon as a hurricane threatens land, countless Walmart 18-wheelers get on the road, moving south, with the needed victuals.

[Kurt Ullman]

Yeah but for those long nuclear winter nights... (g).

[Thomas]

This is very bad advice.

Fill every container now. If by some luck you have advance warning, empty and refill.

How long of a warning for an earthquake? Zero? Tornado? Minutes? Landslide? Missile attack?

Your advance warning is being given to you right now.

[Kurt Ullman]

Must be, I usually just a fork anyway. To some I am sure it is important to get the souffle JUST RIGHT in times of turmoil and broohaha.

Barter them for MREs from the troops in the area?

[Country]

Hey, he asked. I answered. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Why do people like you get so upset about someone wanting to be prepared in case disaster happens?

-C-

[Country]

I have been putting up extra supplies for a while now hoping to have enough to last the wife and me at least long enough for us to raise a garden and live off our harvest. I'm also learning what I can about living off grid if I should ever have too.

I'm not preparing for a long nuclear winter or some such thing that would mean having to be in a bunker for years. There are just some things I don't see much hope for survival.

I live in a rural area and if some disaster happens where we and several of our neighbors survive I'm hoping that including my stash we would have enough for us and our neighbors to band up and share resources and knowledge in order for all of us to survive.

One or two people trying to guard a large stash of supplies from gangs trying to kill them and take their stuff just can't make it. A group of people with variety of skill sets have a much better chance of surviving.

If there's a disaster (Nuclear, Meteor, Super Volcano) that turns this whole planet into a wasteland, just kiss your ass goodbye. Chances of surviving long enough for the planet to heal itself so you can live on the surface again are slim. But if you want to try anyway, go for it.

-C-

[Harry K]

Planting a garden will do no good as he won't have time to harvest it.

Stocking a fallout shelter for survival over a long period is impossible. the limiting factor is _water_. Lack of water will kill you before lack of anything else (other than oxygen :)). You can't store enough water to survive more than a very limited period. Once that runs out you have to get out of the shelter to access more and even that will be difficult in a city.

Of course I am willing to sell my stock of powdered water left over from Y2K.

Harry K