Cordless Tools - Another SUCKER PRODUCT

I have decided to add all cordless tools to the list of SUCKER PRODUCTS. People who buy SUCKER PRODUCTS are truly suckers, and the companies that make and see these products know there is a sucker born every minute. YOU could be one of them.

You might think that $49.99 cordless drill on sale at $39.99 is a bargain, and you quickly open your wallet and dump that amount on the checkout counter. You get home and find this so called tool lacks power, but you manage to use it on jobs with low power demands. Then one year comes along and the battery is so weak it will only drive 8 screws before the battery needs a recharge. Being the sucker that you are, you plunk down $70 for a new battery, and the company laughs at you all the way to the bank, knowing how much of a sucker you are for spending more than the cost of the drill for a replacement battery. Of course, in another year, they'll get to laugh again when you need another new battery, and year after year they laugh at your stupidity.

Cordless tools are not really tools anyhow. They're TOYS. Remember when you were a kid and has a toy drill that ran on 2 D-cell batteries. Well, these so called cordless tools are just a slight improvement. Consider them "Toys for Adults". These differ from the REAL tools that adults used to get in the mid 1900's. Those came with electrical cords and had power. But the manufacturers of these cordless tools figured they would make the cord look like some sort of enemy and using the right wording, they convinced many once sane adults that these cordless tools are an improvement because they dotn have a cord. Well, excuse me, but but I'll struggle with the cord a lot easier than when the goddamn batteries go dead halfway thru a job.

But suckers buy these things by the case, and spend a fortune on batteries yearly, rather than struggle with a cord, which might get in the way......

Oh well, the suckers who buy these cordless toys are the same idiots who buy ink jet printers. These fools spend $29.95 for the printer, then spend $50 for ink every two months. And anyone with a brain knows that the cost to make this ink is less than one half dollar. The sellers of that ink KNOW you're a sucker, and they spend half of each work day just laughing their asses off at the suckers that buy their expensive ink refills.

Now you know the reason that after clothing, cordless tools and ink jet printers are the number one items sold at rummage and garage sales. Most of the time these items work just fine, that's after you spend a fortune on batteries or ink. And the people who run these rummage sales also know there's a sucker born every minute, and that sucker could be YOU.

And if you think the list of SUCKER PRODUCTS ends here, think again. Everytime you spend $4 for a gallon of gasoline, YOU ARE A SUCKER. Everytime you spend $5 for a loaf of bread, YOU ARE A SUCKER. These companies KNOW that you must have that gas to drive and that bread to eat. Unfortunately, many of us have no choices when it comes to gasoline and food, but I'll be the first person to NEVER buy another cordless tool or inkjet printer. There are alternatives !!!!

Reply to
jw
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low cost tools of any type are designed for price not function.

buy a cheap cordless anything, gets you something cheap, which is what you paid for.

the primecell.com rebuilt battery packs are great, way better capacity than new, its amazing...

Reply to
bob haller

Little rambling, but I take your point that while tool may be cheap, to keep it running with new batteries is where company makes it's profit.

I'll never buy another HP printer for this reason. First they made it impossible to reload your own ink and now the newest printer I have refused to function until I replaced the color cartridge which cost $40.

Reply to
Frank

I borrowed an 18v large cordless drill to remove 3" deck screws from a deck where there was no electricity. I dont recall the brand, it was not a known one. It could not handle any of them and I just charged it. I had a friend come who had a top dollar DeWalt. It was fully charged and it took out 3 screws before it pooped out. We removed the rest of them by hand, and decided to just move the whole deck minus the posts (legs). {which is what we had removed). When I got it home, I had to remove more screws to make it fit the place I was putting it. A corded 120V drill took those screws right out (except those with stripped heads). I guess it depends on what you're using them on. They dont have power like a corded one no matter how good the brand name.

Reply to
jw

Hardly, cordless tools are quite useful and a valuable thing to have. Whether you see it or not your post has nothing to do with cordless tools but all to do with realizing that cheap things are often the most expensive version of something you can buy.

Reply to
George

same goes for electric cars.

Reply to
WeinerWaggon

I find mine quite handy. Just grab it and go, no extension cords, no plugs. Of course I'll use the electric for heavy or extensive use in one area. Right tool for the right job.

Reply to
Dbdblocker

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I agree with your main point, but not the rest. I don't buy any cordless tools for the reason that batteries last for at best, a few years.

When I pay my good hard earned money for a tool, I expect it to last forever. I have enough heavy duty extension cord to reach every corner of my 1/3 acre lot.

Batteries run down, but corded tools run continuously until the job is done. Batteries eventually die, and fail to hold a charge. The replacements batteries tend to cost about as much as the tool, and that is before the battery becomes obsolete and rare.

That said, this isn't a one size fits all world.

Many find the cordless convenience to be worth the cost. Nothing wrong with that.

And if I were a professional, one who makes service calls, there is no question that the time saved would make the batteries pay for themselves.

Reply to
Tony Sivori

First thing I ever did when I heard of the Prius was to try to google up cost of battery replacement. All I could find was an Australian post that quoted $7,000 Australian. How much do you think the car would be worth when the warranty is over and the batteries wear out?

Reply to
Frank

I have a HP Photosmart 8250 printer. It has 5 color cartridges. I don't buy HP replacement ink cartridges. I buy cartridges from online companies whose prices are less than 1/4 the price of the HP cartridges. They work the same, although the printer advises you that it is not an HP printer cartridge when first used, but accepts it anyway. As for cordless tools, and I only have 2, a 3/8" Ryobi drill/driver and a 1/2" Makita hammer drill/driver. I don't have 200' of extension cords to drill holes or install screws in a fence at the back of my property. The other drill/drivers I have are corded 3/8", and 1/2".

Reply to
willshak

I find mine very useful too. I bought a Ryobi Combo set, Drill, small Circ Saw, Light and a Sawsall many years ago. Most people think Ryobi is cheap. The Circ Saw can't cut much more than a 8' lenght of 3/4 plywood, whereas the drill, light, and Sawsall seems to last longer than I need. I have replaced the 2 batteries that came with the kit once. I dropped the drill from about 15 ft onto the ground with no damage a couple years ago.

I am not a construction worker, but I use the drill and light pretty often ( at least 2 a week ) for various tasks. I will buy them again or replace the batteries (whichever comes first).

Hank

Reply to
Hank

Yep, and the alternatives are dicking around with a tangled-up extension cord, and writing everything out on paper.

Buy a decent tool, and you wouldn't have this problem. EXAMPLE: The Ryobi ONE+ lithiums I bought over two years ago are still going like the day they were new. In fact, I'm going to need to replace the drill within the next 6 months because the gearbox is going to hell.

Buy a decent printer, and you wouldn't have this problem. EXAMPLE: I bought an HP 7000 wide carriage inkjet. My last printer cost $75 to replace the ink, and only printed a couple hundred pages. This printer only costs $40 for replacement ink, and will print out the same number of pages. HOWEVER, for another $20 I can get high capacity cartridges which TRIPLE the number of pages I can print between refills.

The only SUCKER out there is you, who feels they have to make a strawman argument out of the worst possible scenarios to justify.... well... I have no f*cking clue what you're trying to justify here...

Reply to
mkirsch1

depends on scrap prices at the time

Reply to
WeinerWaggon

I buy on line cartridges for my personal printer which is older and does not recognize cartridge source. But, I have a clients machine, who pays for cartridges and I have no manual on newer printer and just buy ad hoc. Pissed me off the other day when it refused to print with new BW cartridge and made me buy a new color one before it would print. Wife's HP is newer than mine, and finicky too. She had to have it replaced when it failed and must have been on line for four hours with HP. It was so long that batteries in phone drained and she had to call back on another phone - all for a $60 printer.

Reply to
Frank

Instead of wasting our time (and yours) making ridiculous generalizations, why not spend that time a little more constructively?

Go test some cordless tools that cost more than a half-day's work at minimum wage. $39.99..what did you expect?

Troll.

Reply to
DerbyDad03

I got a new laser printer for about $80. Works great. So glad to be rid of the inkjet.

Reply to
mike

Color?

Reply to
DerbyDad03

Why is it a "con"?

Reply to
DerbyDad03

Ink is the cheapest component of the print cartridge. The companies obviously do this to make you have to buy new cartridges sooner.

Years ago, I learned from some researchers at Kodak that Kodak made no money off the sale of their cameras and all the profit was in sale of their film. From this thread it is obviously apparent that it is the same for the printer manufacturers.

I'm still smarting after trading in a 5 gallon propane tank for a new filled one (Blue Rhino) to see that it actually contains 15 pounds which is about 3.5 gallons of propane. I think it is a con to sell anything in a partially filled container. Maybe some lawyer reading this out there will consider some class action suits based on these things.

Reply to
Frank

Nothing you said here makes half-filled ink cartridges in new printers a "con".

Kodak selling cameras (or printers, which they also sell) at cost (or below) is also not a con.

Is every loss-leader that a manufacturer or store sells as means to get you to buy more of their products a "con"?

You bought a printer for $X dollars and you got a printer and some ink to get you started. How were you conned?

Did you buy the printer expecting a certain number of sheets to be printed before you had to buy more ink? On what did you base that expectation other than your own hopes? Did they promise you a certain number of sheets when you bought the printer? I don't recall being promised anything like that when I've bought printers in the past.

If you buy something in a container that can hold 600 gallons of a product and it is clearly labeled as containing 15 gallons, how were you conned? You got exactly what was "promised" on the label, so how were you conned?

Would you feel better if that $99 printer with a half-filled cartridge was $124 with a full cartridge?

You weren't expecting them to absorb that extra cost were you?

Reply to
DerbyDad03

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