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May 02, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 56 Replies

They've been saying that about immigrants since the second European arrived in North America.

The only constant is change. All we can do is manage it; we can't stop it.

Cindy Hamilton

And the vast majority complaining about "immigrants" are less than 4 generations from being immigrants themselves. VERY FEW less than 8 or

  1. (I'm 8th generation in Canada, 9th in N America, 10th in the Netherlands and 12th in Germany)

No one has problems with legal immigrants. The problem is illegal aliens. They are not immigrants.

I've never understood that either. It's like when kids build a tree house or a snow fort and the first job is to make sure no one else can come in. It makes no sense to me.

My ancestors on one side left Berne Switzerland in 1653 for Speirs Germany, and from therte to Zweibrickrn in 1672 - and then to Kennerlanf Holland in about 1695 and from there via England to Pennsylvania in 1736. They left for Canada in 1807.

The other side of the family left Zimmerberg Switzerland in1449 to Wydenbach and Kuhweile and Horgenberg / Ober Durenmoos and from there to Rotterdam and about 1707 to Pennsylvania. and to Ontario in 1819 I'm the 7th generation in Canada on both sides

They were forced to move in Europe because they were Anabaptists and came to North America for freedom and to Canada for land and opportunity.

You know more of your history than I know of mine. On one side, my greatgrandparents came from Germany, while on the other side one set of greatgrandparents also came from Germany while the other set came from Germany via Odessa, Russia. My grandmother on that side was born on the ship, somewhere in the Atlantic.

I'm having a hard time being afraid of immigrants, seeing how my own ancestors were exactly that, not that long ago.

Your ancestors came in legally, most likely through Ellis Island. Those with criminal records, illnesses or infirmaries were rejected and returned to the ships to be taken back. They did not sneak in like is going on today. These people are not legal immigrants but are illegal aliens.

My ancestors (some of them, anyway) came in long before Ellis Island or any concept of "legal" immigrants. Immigration law is a relatively recent concept.

Before immigration law, of course, they just beat hell out of the Irish and made sure they couldn't get good jobs.

Cindy Hamilton

There are a lot of US citizens with criminal records, illnesses, or infirmaries. When I see them being rounded up and removed from the country I'll be more inclined to look at rejecting immigrants with those 'qualities'.

On Mon, 3 May 2021 20:55:23 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...

I never learned my life lesson's that fast. It had to be repeated, sometimes more than once.

On Mon, 3 May 2021 20:18:06 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...

There was another article I read today on this. Down to 1.6 kids per couple IIRC.

On Tue, 4 May 2021 02:46:07 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com posted for all of us to digest...

What exactly do you mean by "change" & "manage it" in relation to what?

On Tue, 4 May 2021 12:21:45 -0400, Frank posted for all of us to digest...

That is exactly what I was going to post...

On Tue, 04 May 2021 22:11:36 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...

Go to a local municipality meeting. The people opposing development want to be the development. Next development wants to oppose development, so on...

On Wed, 05 May 2021 00:14:33 -0400, Clare Snyder posted for all of us to digest...

Are the ones in PA the pretzel makers?

On Wed, 5 May 2021 04:40:32 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com posted for all of us to digest...

I want reparations.

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My father's line came from England in 1650 to the Virginia colonies. He came for the "free" land. The line then moved from VA > SC > KY > TN > IN > OH.

My mother, at age 7 in 1926, came with her family from Italy thru Ellis Is. They came to Akron, Ohio as it was a rubber industry boom town at the time. (Today, I am told, there no passenger car tires made in Akron)

In this particular case, the change is in the ethnic and cultural makeup of the United States. We can manage it to a certain extent, but the press of immigration is going to make us "majority minority" eventually.

Cindy Hamilton

Stand in line. I think some of my ancestors were indentured. Of course, later generations owned slaves, so it's probably a wash.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 5 May 2021 12:32:45 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com posted for all of us to digest...

That's because of illegal immigration and drugs. The country is being overrun because congress dawdles wanting new voter blocks, congress doesn't want to address limits or enforcement, congress doesn't want to do any kind of scrutiny into the drugs being sent from China via Mexico. Mexico is not our friend, China is not our friend. It's all about money and power. It's all about feelings and words. Not actions. Manage it doesn't seem to be in any equation.

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