mine had 28 years of crud, so yes, I understand the risks, but like
you I didn't want to cut a bunch of pipe to put in a tap. I was
fortunate that it worked out with out any problems. my dad has used
saddle valves on copper and PVC with no problems as well. I guess
it's all a matter of the particular situation.
I like your two port valve idea, it sounds the safest. good luck, I
hope it works out.
I don't know if you mean copper or polyethylene, but I would never use
the latter. They spring leaks for no apparent reason. And then they
leak and leak and spray and spray until someone notices it. copper is
a little harder to work with but much better.
Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let
me know if you have posted also.
Yup. Last year. Pipe was from the 1950's. Works great. Steel pipe,
to saddle-valve to 1/4" copper tubing to icemaker.
I've seen self-piercing valves only on copper, but the pre-drill kind
work just fine on steel. You are much less likely to disturb other
joints and cause leaks by using a saddle-valve rather than disassemble
and put in a tee.
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Sure, but why use a pump? Just put the water
container higher than the refrigerator so that it
flows by gravity. (like in a cabinet above the
Don't understand why you can't run a water line to
the refrigerator, don't you have water lines in
ice makers REQUIRE a REALLY GOOD FLOW!
As I found out when a bit of nothing clogged mine partially and it quit
The saddle valve had a problem, i disconnected the line at the fridge
and flow into a bucket appeared good. after replacing the ice maker
kit, solenoid valve works in fridge the service guy was called. I was
here, he looked at the flow listened to my tale of woe, and replaced
the saddle valve its worked fine ever since:(
The flow difference wasnt much so a icemaker on gravity feed just
wouldnt cut it
He has old galvanized pipe in a crawl space and does not want to tap
until he does a fix up later. .
You can easily run a 50 foot plastic line if you want, how about taking
the connection to a better location, with galvanized he probabl;y has
some copper or plastic repair areas, that would be ideal to connect to
plastic quick easy and cheap
Didn't know that they needed a considerable amount
of pressure. However, a pressure tank would
easily take care of 15-40 psi.
Yep I read that he didn't want to tap into old
pipes after I wrote the comment.
Here's a low tech possibility:
Buy a new 2 gallon garden sprayer. Clean it out well and disinfect it
with a bleach solution. Cut off the control valve and adapt the hose
to the water inlet on the fridge. Fill it with bottled water. Pump
it up and you're good to go. Every so often, give it another pump or
two, it's easy to tell when the pressure is low by the effort to pump
An interesting array of answers...
I agree with the suggestion to use ice cube trays. We do, and manage to
It has got to be cheaper to run a water line to the fridge than to use a
pump and a bottle.
Sure it is. We can also survive with no power windows in the car but many of
us sure like them. Our parents and grandparent made toast on the stove too
but now we use toasters. Practicality does not always come into play.
If you had to buy a generator to power only your toaster, while you had a
nice hot stove nearby, wouldn't you use the stove?
I have nothing against ice makers, but is absurd to hook up a pump and a
bottle to use it when ice cube trays are so much easier.
My parent's seldom make toast on a stove, whereas
we always make toast on a stove when we go
camping. Yep, practicality often is not a factor,
the main factor is usually "desire." Put me in
the category of not owning a refrigerator with an
ice maker. I doubt that I ever will. To me they
are only slightly above tits on a boar hog for
Put me in the lazy ass category. I won't be without one after having two
teenagers in the house that never learned how to fill an ice cube tray.
In the next few months I plan to buy a new car. Features such as rain
sensing wipers and electrochromatic mirrors carry a lot of weight in my
A much cheaper solution is to kick the teenagers
out, in fact, kicking them out provides double
benefits. Waiting for them to leave is a pita.
The problem with lots of convenience features is
that the more you have the more possible failures
that may create huge problems until fixed. For
example, if my pickup stops running for some
unknown reason out in the desert, it is call the
wrecker time (actually wait for a passerby to call
the wrecker since I don't have a cell phone).
Didn't use to be that way when vehicles didn't
have computer controls. But I do appreciate the
increased mileage, improved power, reduced amount
of maintenance, etc. of the
Electrochromatic mirrors? are these self dimming,
if so that sounds good, but forget the automatic
They both left at a reasonable time. One came back for 6 months and left
again. Right now I have a grandson that is on the verge of being kicked
out. I do not regret having children, but life is nice now with just the
two of us and no repsosibilities to others.
Yes, self dimming. Very comfortable at nigh, especially when some idiot has
his high beams on behind you.
The wipers have to be turned on, but they will increase in speed if the rain
gets harder or if you get sprayed by a passing truck. When you turn the
wipers on (headlights also go on) they work like any intermittent but will
park when there is no rain. I passed a truck going the opposite way and he
sprayed by so heavy that I could not see. Before I could reach the control,
the wiper made a pass.
Needed? Of course not. Anything is better than the old vacuum motor wipers
used until the 50's. My next car is going to have a remote starter too. It
is 20 feet to run out and start the car myself :)
Ok, the wipers sound good too, assuming someone
doesn't screw up the sensor. We don't get much
rain but when it does, it seems like it constantly
goes from barely to medium and everything in
between. A pita to keep adjusting the timing.
Actually Chrysler Corp went to electric before
1950. Ford still had ineffective vacuum motors
into the 60's. Don't know about GM. Ford was
also rather reluctant to change from generators to
alternators. But remote start? Don't you still
have to get in the car to go somewhere?
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