| Nobody is holding a gun to your head demanding you continue with that
| company are they. You are free to choose any provider you wish.
No. That's the point. As I explained and you apparently
missed, there are two options. They both charge the same
rate. Like most neighborhoods, there's a duopoly that's
functionally a monopoly. (Many people don't even have that
There was an interesting article this past week about
a software developer who's selling his new house because
he can't get cable service, despite officially having a
choice of several companies. It throws some light on the
effects of the pro-big-business, anti-citizen position you're
An interesting detail of that story is that the man lives
in one of 20 states where lobbyists have managed to
get laws passed prohibiting municipal broadband service
being sold to individuals. It so happens that there is a
municipal line running near the man's house, but it's illegal
for them to give him service. That would be "unfair
There are more than those two options as others have pointed out. You
said you didn't want VOIP. Well, that was one choice you made. Another
choice you have is to have no phone at all.
Be that as it may, the market will seek it's own level and the
consumers will continue to pay what is charged until they feel the
price is too high. It's the old supply and demand thing.
Previously you complained about Citizen protection from corporate
exploitation has gone way downhill in the US. Cite some examples of
this exploitation. From the current administration I'm only seeing
exploitation from the government. That will change
OK, I'll give you one.
Through diet and excercise, I take care of my health. Unfortunately
for me, I'm forced into ObamaCares expensive medical plans with a
bunch of fat lazy expensive-to-insure slugs.
Sure, maybe 10% of people have genetically caused illness. I don't mind helping them one bit.
But the rest of them are fat lazy slugs. You see them riding obesecycles at Walmart, loading the
basket with junk food like potato chips and sugary snack cakes, Then they get diabetes and/or have
a heart attack and/or a stroke.
Why should I have to pay for their stupidity?
Because it's not fair that they suffer from
their own stupidity? They are entitled to the
money you made, because you are unfairly healthy.
Or, so the liberals are wont to say.
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
You are asking for the impossible.
Trolls don't ever experience compassion.
It's all about how being superior to everyone else.
Until they are affected personally, they prove their superiority by
looking down on everyone else.
For an education on medical costs I suggest
you do a web search for 'chargemaster rates'.
IMHO, health insurance is the largest criminal
activity in this country! Bring down the cost of
health care and start your very own savings
account to pay. And I'm not referring to a HSA
that only addresses the premiums you have
paid to a ripoff company but to your own acc't.
Need an example? Here's mine..
Back in sep'07 I spent 4 days in the hospital
for congestive heart failure and got a bill for a
little over 10K. Went to pay it and asked for a
deal as I know they used the chargemaster.
Lady says if you pay within a month you get
a 33% cut. Ok, give me a number. Wrote a
check for the amount to pay in full. She says
'don't you wish you had ins. to pay it'? No!
???? Why? Because I could have continued
ins. from the company that shut down our
shop and I could have kept the policy and so
far I would have paid them 18K with a 5K
deductible. So I would have paid out 23K and
the ins. co. would have paid 2K! Nuff said....
Now I'm retired and on medicare.
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:09:12 PM UTC-4, Phil Kangas wrote:
That sounds pretty reasonable for 4 days in the hospital.
I've seen bills for $2500 for just an ER visit for a
couple hours. And the problem with the strategy is that
you were very lucky. What if it had turned into say a
bypass operation and a bill for $100K? Or a long
term illness that runs up huge bills for hospitals, drugs,
And I would argue that there are many contenders for largest criminal group.
Is it the sugar/grain/carbohydrate food industry?
Is it the pharmaceutical industry?
Or health care providers?
Or the idiots that eat McJunkFood?
Or the insurance companies that are expected to pay for all the above criminal activities?
So do I so am I.
Having said that, I recognize that the essence of insurance is spreading
I could live a totally healthy life and get hit by a car or come down
with cancer tomorrow.
Also, once insurance gets too granular (i.e. the insurers know so much
about one that they can precisely predict health problems and raise
rates accordingly) you no longer have insurance because people with
higher risk factors pay so much that it just becomes a pre-payment plan.
While they seem to be a good idea, they can be blocking calls you need.
You can notify friends and have them call and put their numbers on the
OK list, but what about other callers?
My wife is going through a series of medical testing and appointments.
We don't want to take a chance and miss any of those calls, especially
the surgeon that is difficult to reach anyway. Good luck with whatever
works for you. Let us know too.
On 03/29/2015 09:44 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I received several calls where the caller ID name was "NBF" rather than
something more meaningful, and this is commonly an indication of a junk
call. However, it turned out to be a billing company for a medical
treatment I had.
BTW, the place that did the treatment showed up as "CVC", but at least I
was expecting that.
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