A talk show mentioned built to rent housing developments. The houses are on the modest end of the scale. A nearby town might have something like that. There is an area of identical duplexes. They don't look like anything fancy from the outside but people at least have a little yard and a garage. The garages are in the middle of the duplexes.
What's f***ed about the roof water? Since it's in the West, where water rights are to my way of thinking frankly crazy, it's possible that the people who own or live in the house don't own the rights to the water that falls on it. If that's the case, they must let it run to wherever it has always run.
Cindy Hamilton
Did they let the water drain right down along the foundation?
If so, that - to use your word - is f***ed.
Usually these "rain chains" are used where the eaves overhang the foundation by quite a bit.
It's standard aluminum downspout. Nearly every house in the U.S. has the same thing and it lasts as long as it needs to.
Cindy Hamilton
That is just getting the water away from the house so the basement is not as likely to flood. They usually use splash blocks for that. I guess an extra 3" of aluminum was cheaper.
It's a fine distinction but you cannot impound the water. You can divert the downspout to water your garden. You cannot fill a cistern or koi pond. The water use laws in this state go back at least 100 years. They may seem crazy to people in the wetlands but they're not as crazy as settling water disputes with .30-30's.
Whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting over - Mark Twain.
Thanks for the detail. The East is no stranger to water-rights weirdness. IIRC there are places if anybody ever tied two logs together and floated them downstream, it's a "navigable waterway" and subject to regulation.
Cindy Hamilton
You're right. It's standard hinged downspout extension. You can buy them on Amazon if you're so inclined:
How would you know? Do you have any direct experience with it?
We use schedule 80 PVC for the same purpose at our house. I expect it'll still be sitting there when I'm dead. How much longer does it need to last? I'm confident whoever buys our house will say "Oh, that 4" drainage pipe painted brown is so ugly" and replace it.
Cindy Hamilton
Yeah, 'wetlands' are a sensitive topic around here. The Bitterroot and Clark Fork rivers flood this time of year and do a lot of remodeling of the channels. Trying to build a retaining wall on your property can be a hassle.
Except for one are that is iffy nobody ever built too close to the river but sometimes they cut a new channel in surprising places. A nature reserve built a paved handicapped accessible trail and a picnic pavilion that got eaten a couple of years later.
I agree but these houses were built on the cheap. My bet, with renters that thing won't last a week.
You know nothing about water drainage from foundations. Rain chains are basically a yuppie decoration.
Yeah, that's much worse than some drunk A-hole ripping the chain down and beating his wife with it.
No, they are a downspout that will never block up, freeze and split!!! The only real downspout solution in forested or semi-forested areas with extreme weather. A regular downspout plugs up with leaves or pine needles, water backs up from a thaw and splits the downpipe when the temperature drops. Doesn't matter if the downspout is ABS, aluminum, galvanized, copper, pvc, or cast iron - if it freezes it splits. The chain just turns into a post and with a good strong wind on a sunny day turns back into a chain
You're the one that started the chain discussion with "In my dad's last house but one, there is a heavy galvanised chain from the roof eaves" and then followed up with "Its obviously not going to last as long as a proper galvanised chain."
Now you've switched to a cheap plastic chain. Oh, yeah, that'll look great. Guaranteed longevity too. Idiot.
Unless the renter's kids climb them, right?
Let's see, according to you, plastic downspout *extenders* (the subject of this discussion) won't last when used on a rental property...
"My bet, with renters that thing won't last a week."
...but a plastic gutter chain will. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
You're the one that changed horses mid-stream when tripped up by your own words.
What a stunning line of rational argument you have there.
Was that supposed to be English? Are you so flustered that you can't even put together a coherent response?
I'll move on and give you a chance to rest. I don't want you to hurt yourself.
I'm not sure a plastic rain chain would hold up to any kind of _real_ weather:
Cindy Hamilton
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