A thoughtful viewpoint from an Australian........ gun nuts won't be (2025 Update)

You poor deluded optimist... Considering selling guns in the alleys of Detroit is only a sideline for the banger whose real product line is crack, fentanyl, and black tar heroin, do you really think he gives a s*it about laws?

The democrat's liberal pacifism isn't working. OTOH, a guillotine is 100% effective against recidivism.

Yeah that threat of jail has done such a great job in the drug war. We just ended up with about a million people in prison for drug offenses and the drug trade is still thriving, driving ther murder rate. We even threaten to kill murderers and they still murder.

Gun charges in most states get traded away for a plea to the underlying crime anyway. Only a few states, like Florida, will pursue the gun crime because they carry stiffer mandatory minimums. (10,20,life). All it really does is fill up the prison system.

So remove all laws. What's the point of a law if it's not going to be obeyed?

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.... with criminals. What's wrong with that? Are they too white or something? []'s

You tell me.

Yeah, sure.

I see. So you're now saying that the typical American gun owner is about the same as a drug dealer, therefore they will not comply with new gun laws. Got it. Funny, previously I thought they were honest, law abiding Americans, that just insist that guns be sold over the counter like beer and cigarettes, so you can buy one on the spur of the moment, no time for a permit process with a background check by the local police.

Again you read what you want and not what is written. We were talking about criminals and mass shooters getting guns and it is clear, if they want a deadly weapon they will get one, whether it is a gun, a knife or a Ryder rental truck full of fertilizer with a spritz of diesel fuel.

Sure, some will. But when we have 25 dead, I want to know that we had reasonable measures in place, a permit process, so that they could not go buy a gun LEGALLY, like they do beer. Again, this is like saying that because some drunks will drive drunk no matter what, we should just throw up our hands and not take reasonable steps, steps that have worked, to reduce deaths from DWI.

By your logic, we should have background checks with a police veto at the liquor store. It would certainly save more lives. Maybe all cars should have the breatholyzer.