A thoughtful viewpoint from an Australian........ gun nuts won't be (2025 Update)
Dec 18, 2019 Last reply: 8 months ago 110 Replies
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trader_4
Yes, I know. You need to be able to buy your guns, just like you buy your Bud and cigarettes. Just walk in and buy whatever you want, no matter if you're being treated for mental illness, have ten arrests or are a drug addict. No time for a permit process to check any of that, it has to be just like buying beer.
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trader_4
Please cite for us these almost institutional attempts to keep the poor, poor. Only thing I can think of is the welfare state, that makes it more comfortable to not work and act irresponsibly. Funny how immigrants like the Vietnamese that fled Vietnam and came here with nothing, in just a few years were productive and moving on up. No institution stopped them.
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gfretwell
The "institution" was HHS and the Johnson "Great Society" programs that made welfare pay better than working, as long as you didn't live with your baby daddy.
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Shadow
And yet the highest standard of living is in ... socialist countries. Look up HDI. Best schools, security, healthcare, pensions, salaries, freedom etc for the majority of the population (try to forget the top 1%, I know you love Bill Gates, Trump, Jeff Bezos etc, but they are NOT the average citizen).
Cuba is a dictatorship. Dictatorships don't have "wings", they have dictators.
//When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence// []'s
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Shadow
You seem to have snipped the really heinous crimes ... the ones that cause poverty and the violence associated with it. Are you guilty of something or did you forget to scroll down?
Here it is:
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devnull
Rather than crying all the time, why don't you and Ocasio-Kotex move to one of your socialist utopian countries.
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Clare Snyder
And you really believe there would be fewer single teenaged moms, and less crime, and less cost to society without??????????
I want some of what you are smoking, dude!!
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gfretwell
You are talking about homogeneous white european countries. There is more going on there than simply that they are socialist. Maybe if we sent them several million hard core unemployable people with criminal tendencies and a chip on their shoulder, things wouldn't be so rosy.
They are still socialists by any definition as is Venezuela
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gfretwell
Tax evasion, exploiting bankruptcy laws and insider trading doesn't leave people bleeding in the street. It also has nothing to do with why people are locked in a cycle of poverty.
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gfretwell
Maybe the Shadow should just fix his own country and shut the f*ck up about us. Their murder rate is almost 6 times ours in spite of gun laws stricter than Trader brags about in New Jersey.
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gfretwell
Yes I do. I lived in Southeast DC (where most of the crime is now) and I saw those programs change the neighborhood. It did drive men out of the homes because assistance was tied to unwed mothers and fatherless children. It also removed a lot of the incentive to work because you could make as much money staying home as you could get in the jobs those people were qualified for. As each generation descended deeper into this cycle of welfare dependence things like self worth and work ethic was lost completely. Now we are looking at 4 or even 5 generations of people addicted to welfare and crime.
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trader_4
The US is the only country with hardcore unemployable and chips on their shoulders? Maybe the difference is that the US has a culture that celebrate guns, shooting, violence as part of our heritage and has more guns per capita than anywhere else? How about Australia for example? Plenty of minorities, hardcore unemployed there too, but there murder rate with guns is .8 compared to our 12.
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trader_4
I agree with you there. Economics 101 says that when you pay for something, subsidize it, you get more of it. With welfare, the more children you had, the more $$ you get. Have a father in the house? Bad, then the govt expected the father to get a job. Welfare absolutely encouraged all of this. Welfare went from being a local program, private in many cases, where people knew the people getting it, to a debit card. No question there are many people who really need welfare. But with any big govt program, there are plenty that know how to work the system, live off of it. Same thing with SSI. I see scum buckets that are 25 show up on TV court shows, saying they are on SSI for attention deficit disorder. A condition no one even heard of a few decades ago. Yet now, a scum bucket that can be on a TV show, can't do *any* job? And better not question it, that's not politically correct now either. He's just a poor widdle victim and any questioning, why you're discriminating against the "handicapped".
I lived in Southeast DC (where most of the crime is now) and
Bingo.
As each generation descended deeper
And the poverty rate is still the same as it was 50 years ago, when LBJ started the war on poverty. We have seen the black out of wedlock birth rate quadruple though, that's what we have to show for it.
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Ralph Mowery
As over half the crimes are commited by the same ones over and over, capital punishment would automatically eliminate over half the crimes.
Simple solution.
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Ralph Mowery
Some are not really locked in to a cycle of poverty. They could get out if they wanted to. Saw a person outside the local Walmart begging for money beside a sign that said Waltmart hiring $ 11 per hour.
In this part of NC that is not too bad of a wage for unskilled labor.
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Scott Lurndal
It's sad that you actually believe that anything on "TV Court" shows bear any resemblance to, you know, actual reality.
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Clare Snyder
ANd it is STILL safer to walk the streets of Havana after dark than most American cities - and even safer in the smaller centers.
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Clare Snyder
No??? Keep looking. A bit below the surface. "Corporate malfeasence" causes a LOT of financial hardship at the lower end of the scale - and a lot of REAL HURT in the middle.
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Clare Snyder
That was because of the conditions placed on the aid, and the way it was dispensed. Give a dog a name and it will live up to it. Convince a total segment of society they are worthless, and they will be worthless. It's not the hand up that is the problem - it's the backhand.
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Clare Snyder
But was his mental health stable enough that he could hold onto the job? And if not, would $11 an hour pay for the meds that would be required to keep him employable?
Most likely answer to both questions is NO WAY!!!
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