A sad tale of two wrecked newsgroups

Disagree. When trolls are ignored, they go away quickly. They will not hang around in places where nobody feeds them. So while the problem you describe is real, it's very short-lived.

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Doug Miller
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote

No, you moron. The biggest threat to usenet is that it has a very high content of spam and bullshit in proportion to top related content and the companies just say, "enough", as they are starting to do.

Take your crayons and spraypaint somewhere else. We're not buying it here.

Steve

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A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.

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Steve B

I don't know about that. I just KF anyone who responds to the particularly annoying trolls. I just don't want to see it at all.

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h

Ab-so-FRAKKING-lutely! If someone doesn't know how to use filtering, kill filing and such, post THAT sort of off-topic question here, and the more experienced users will be glad to help you learn.

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Kyle

No, but the point was well-made by STEVE B that trolls only stay where they can feed, and if enough of us in this group employ filtering and kill tactics and most people do not respond to the trolls, the trolling should dwindle to background noise and keep this group for its purpose that many of us value so highly.

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Kyle

On 6/22/2010 2:18 AM snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net spake thus:

Look, this group isn't anywhere near "wrecked". Like I said, I don't know anything about the two groups the OP mentioned, so I can't say how bad things are there. You might want to take a peek at sci.electronics.repair to see what *real* newsgroup wreckers look like. They not only post off-topic messages, often quite offensive ones, but they deliberately try to further f*ck things up by posing as other posters (like myself and others in that group) and posting maliciously. Compared to them, "Harry" is a harmless annoyance.

Even that group still isn't quite wrecked, but it's a lot to it closer than this one. Despite the off-topic stuff here, this group is still quite readable--I read it without any filters whatsoever. (I do use a filter, but it's a simple one: do I want to read that message or not?) There's still a *lot* of valid information being exchanged here, which is after all why most of us are here.

So things could be a *lot* worse.

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David Nebenzahl

On 6/22/2010 2:56 AM The Daring Dufas spake thus:

I always wondered about that. (Well, not always; wasn't born wondering about it.) So it isn't the same as "doofus". Thanks for clearing that up.

Probably pronounced "do-FA", right?

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David Nebenzahl

Despite your best efforts. Damned nymshifting troll.

(again).

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Doug Miller

Also don't forget the other half of the equation. The on topic posts and threads need to always outumber the garbage posts and threads. The good stuff needs to always be crowding out the noise. What drives people away is when the ratio of noise to real content becomes too high.

Healthy groups always have multiple interesting ON TOPIC threads going at all times.

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salty

It's not just happening to those groups; there is a concerted effort going on. alt.adoption was killed off that way, alt.social.security-disability is in its last throes and there are at least 3 others I'm aware of. The groups that live through them do so by COMPLETELY ignoring them. There are of course, plants already present, to refute the "ignore them" attitudes and most times people by the dozens feel they have to "defend" themselves, quit erroneously.

Good luck,

Twayne`

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Twayne

Whassup? Steve had to replonk Harry & you had to re-plonk David. Neither one has gone past my filter on name & email. [and I don't think I have some overly broad filter on as I don't see replies to anyone whose posts I care about seeing]

Jim

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Jim Elbrecht

For me, I just don't care enough to find out why. Whenever I see Harry, or "Cliff" from another bunch of groups, or any of the usual suspects, I just automatically hit BLOCK SENDER, and my inbox drops by about half of its content. I use standard off the rack programs, OE. Have thought about changing it lately, but lately, I'm busy just doing life, and my time is more valuable than to waste it on the likes of trolls.

I still find out what I need to learn here and on other newsgroups, help out the occasional person, and the trolls keep getting shot off the bridges.

Steve

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A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.

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Steve B

Dunno. Might be a problem in my newsreader; same thing happened to me with one poster in another newsgroup too.

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Doug Miller

But not valuable enough to continue posting to this OT thread that the OP hasn't even responded to since the initial post?

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Ron

You may pronounce it as you wish, it matters not since I can't hear you. You should hear the Southern pronunciation for "Renault".

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

Would that be "REN-awlt" or "REE-nawlt" ?

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Doug Miller

Yep, the last one. ROTFLMAO

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

But not valuable enough to continue posting to this OT thread that the OP hasn't even responded to since the initial post?

pot..........kettle...............

Reply to
Steve B

Hook....line...and... sinker.

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Ron

The last one was how i grew up hearing it.

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Steve Barker

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