A mask test. It would be nice to see this carried to the extreme. (2025 Update)

Aug 17, 2020 Last reply: 8 months ago 149 Replies

Not just slow, win in fact. Taiwan STILL has just SEVEN deaths due to the virus

That by any definition is a win.

F*ck tourism, deaths are more important.

No one is like that and its trivial to keep importing them safely.

I wasn’t talking about that isolation, I was talking about isolating in your own home.

I choose to use a reliable and cheap news server, stupid.

So do plenty of others with a clue.

That isnt showing that medical masks worn intermittently are NOT EFFECTIVE.

Joshua Snow explained :

Wikipedia huh? I'll see that, and raise you one cdc.gov

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"Use Limitations disposable. Discard after each patient encounter".

How many people do that? I bet they are still using the same mask they got from the door man at Costco in March.

Most people don’t have patient encounters, stupid.

And that very superficial table doesn’t even mention washable masks and masked with washable filters.

They are washable for a reason, stupid.

That’s fine, the virus doesn’t last for long on that material, stupid.

Only people that have "patient encounters". It's impossible to keep a safe social distance when examining the infected. HTH

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Thank you for helping me update my killfile

If nobody has encounters with Covid people, why are we wearing the mask?

The problem is with those who are infected who are symptomless or who only have minor symptoms, and who are out an about in shops etc, stupid.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you actually are that stupid.

Wouldn't that be a patient then?

<re CLOSE encounters with the public, as in a doctor examining a patient>

Because people don't obey social distancing (the distance is greater when NOT wearing a mask, obviously, as ALL diseases have a "minimum infective dose", and masks reduce the amount of infected droplets). So they obviously DO have encounters with "Covid People" Otherwise it would have been eradicated from the US a long time ago. It all comes down to political competence. Remember the Obama Ebola pandemic? Nor do I. []'s

Corse not if they recover fine without any medical treatment and plenty do.

And whether they are a patient or not is irrelevant to why wearing a mask can reduce the risk of getting infected,. stupid.

So then this is a medical situation,. thank you.

Really? I presume you're referring to infectious diseases not diseases in general and viral diseases in particular. How do you count the number of virus particles and since the virus particles need a "home"-- the number of receptors on the target cells-- in this case the ACE2 cells?.

There's also the question of active/inactive viral particles. I suppose that with SARS-COV2 you could sit in front of an electron microscope and go 1, 2, 3 ...etc. Despite the graphical representation (the red ball) when you see the electron photograph of the actual virus it looks nothing like that. Then again I have lots of difficulty reading my own chest X-ray so maybe it's a question of training.

Moreover this is not a static thing. Each breath you take can inhale massive numbers of particles so by the time you come up with a number it'll be useless unless it's 1 or some huge number. Most of the guesses I've seen are very tentative, full of passive voice estimates (e.g."it is thought that...")

The minimum infective dose obviously exists. It's been determined for numerous pathogens. (I remember reading a study about cholera, almost all water in India had the vibrium, but not many sources with enough to cause an infection) We've ALL had contact with the Covira virus,a single infected person breaths/coughs/sneezes out millions of viral particles a day. Yet not everyone gets sick. And where masks and social distancing are mandatory, infection rates are low. Not because the virus is not there, but because its numbers are low. It's math. If a person sneezes 100 yards upwind you will come in contact with the virus. Changes of infection = nihil.

That was ignored, for some strange reason. []'s

Yes, a pandemic is a medical situation. It's why the State should deal with it. It's why the CDC and its equivalents exist. Private doctors are not trained in public health. Seems I'm finally getting though... []'s

OK if it is medical, why wouldn't a study of actual medical situations be more valid than people sneezing in a box?

Comrade Doctor,

Is that your "opinion"? Or do you have some actual Randomized Clinical Trials (RCT's) to back you up?

Six foot social distancing, my ass. Maybe 50 feet and a half hour for everything to settle to the ground. But that is my "opinion"

I havent. There have been no known positives here for months and there have only ever been three known positives here, from the Ruby Princess who were known to self isolate properly until they recovered.

Zero in the substantial town I live in because we did a proper lockdown.

It isnt here.

Not here because there are no infected people here.

But much higher inside with aerosols.

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