Sorry if this is the wrong group. I just sprayed something in my garage
without any kind of protection. I know it was dumb but I was just wondering
if I might have permanently damaged myself as a result? The paint was black
rustoleum and I see black residue around my nostrils as well as what came
out when I blew my nose. Could there be any long-term damage or will I be
fine (I'll definately get myself a respirator for next time)? Any
My father used to paint one to two cars a day, seven days a week when he
owned his own autobodyshop in the 1950's. While he did wear a mask, it was
mostly useless. In the evening he would be blowing paint out his nose or
rinsing his nose out for several minutes before bed. He lived until 67 when
he died of a heart attack. Possibly the paint and its solvents were
Your health will depend on its present condition, and any allergies or
sensitivities that you have. You may notice no lasting problems, or you may
never be the same, all depending on your body. Don't do it again!
You should be fine, just don't make a habit of inhaling/ingesting any more
chemicals than you need to. Different people have different tolerances for
these things, and since you don't know where you fall on that scale, play it
safe. You might do this daily and live to 102, or you might be one of those
people who are sensitive to it and find yourself with a problem after
relatively little exposure. Good luck and be careful.
Well, there isn't much you can do about it now. Go out for a walk in the
night air (unless you are in city smog) and buy a respirator. BTW, the
respirator will get particles, but not vapors. So, if you're working in a
cloud of solvent vapor (like spray paint drying) it's a good idea to
ventilate. Open doors, and set up fans.
One-time exposure shouldn't be critical. Second the respirator.
Depends on the respirator. If you buy one with replaceable multi-stage filters
you can buy the cartridges that are rated for non-industrial vapor usage, not
just particulate matter. As far as particulate matter goes a wet bandana over
the nose and mouth works just fine for limited exposure (as long as you tuck it
in under your chin).
Even if you're using a respirator rated for vapors this is good advice.
firstname.lastname@example.org (Larry Bud) wrote in message
I worked in a shop when I was young and I spray painted silver paint.
There was a fog of paint in the shop which drove everyone else out
while I continued to paint. I suppose it was a good thing the welder
quit working also or we would have had an inferno. To date I seem to
have recovered fully and have run many marathons. The only long term
legacy I worry about is cancer. But for a single exposure I doubt
there will be any sequalae.
One-time exposure to Rustoleum will irritate you but not much else
if you don't have any medical condition making you especially sensitive.
Repeated long-term exposure would be a different matter.
There are some paints based on isocyanates (Imron is one well-known
brand often used for automotive paiting) which are extremely
hazardous, and will likely send you to the hospital the first time you
spray them without a really good respirator. You do not find these on
the shelves at Ace Hardware or Home Depot!
On 2 Dec 2003 17:26:57 -0800, email@example.com (Tim Shoppa)
It's not just paints you have to watch out for. Alot of caulks and
sealants have as their ingredient Toluene Di-isocyanates. Yes, some of
the paints and caulks at at Ace and HD have this as an ingrediant
usually althought only about 5% product content. Still, I never apply
these products without using a full face respirator with orgainic
vapor/P100 catridges. When their is very little ventilation, I use a
supplied air respiator. Call me paranoid, but their is no price for
firstname.lastname@example.org (Rob) wrote in message
Can you remind me of brands/products that contain isocyanates? The packaging
for Imron etc. makes it perfectly clear that using them without a
respirator is extremely dangerous, yet I've never seen any such
warnings on caulk. Am I correct that it's the "high-end" sealants that
have this nasty stuff?
On 4 Dec 2003 07:47:14 -0800, email@example.com (Tim Shoppa)
Yes your are correct for the most part. It is usually in the higher
end polyurethane based sealants. Just read the label on anything that
says that it is polyurethane based ( foam, caulk, two-part
epoxies,marine adhesives.etc.). Just about every manuafacture has a
product line that contains this stuff.
It amazes me how often I see contractors using this stuff with no
protection in below grade constructionor and in boat hulls with no
ventilation. The fumes are heavier than air so you can imagine what
Isocyanates are precursors of most urethanes. Things like Gorilla glue.
For susceptible individuals this can cause that person to become
asthmatic. Inhaling the vapors is "not a good thing" if you're susceptible.
Tim Shoppa wrote:
Just curious what type of paint were you using? Was it rustoleum
primer/paint for metal or garage/concrete/epoxy floor paint?
Why didn't you paint it outside or at least open the garage door open?
Chances are it only contained Toluene or Xylene as it's most hazardous
incredients It will give you a nice buzz for a few hours, but that's
about if. The liver is a pretty hearty organ and can take alot of
abuse before you show serious signs of overexposure. The huffers
behind our local Pep Boys have been there for years sniffing
carbuerator cleaner everyday and their still standing albeit walking
vegetables. OTOH, if the product you used contained methylene chloride
as its main ingredient.....well....you have my sympathies.
Don't worry about. If you feel fine now then obviously you have
nothing to worry about. Worst case scenario, if your exposure
resulted in ingesting a quantity of trimethylbenzene in the paint,
you'd probably have a bad case of pneumonia or bronchitis. Your liver
would metabolize and and excrete the toxins in about 24-36 hour time
frame with no lasting effects. Like everthing else, it all depends on
the amount ingested via inhalation and/or absorption thru the skin.
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