Yeah, the Trane is a great furnace until the motor goes out. I was
quoted $1000 plus labor to replace the motor. That's One Thousand
Dollars! Yow, that hurts. The disappointing thing is the motor
probably failed about 3 or 4 years ago... when it was still under
warranty. But we didn't notice that is was no longer capable of
anything but the low speed given the mild climate in Oregon. Now that
the motor works properly we can see that it hasn't been this way in
years. It was installed 7 years ago so no luck on the warranty. The
good new is that the replacement motor is guaranteed for a whole
year... One Whole Year! Wow.
Nothing Runs like a Trane wreck.
I wish I had done the due diligence seven years ago. There would
certainly not be a Trane in my basement today had I done so.
Live and learn.
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:20:58 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
When the motor on my TWE went bad they decided I needed the moror and
the controller board. It was going to be at least $1000. For $210
(including the original service call) they put a regular motor and
contactor in there and it works great.
This was about 9 years into a 10 year P&L that was given away free as
part of the original sales promotion but nobody seemed to remember
that and I couldn't prove it. The tech said I could pay him and fight
it out with Trane if I wanted or I could just stay "down" and fight it
out before he fixed it.
On Oct 30, 10:20 pm, email@example.com wrote:
Ha, the worst furnace I ever owned was a new Trane (in my old house).
The best furnace I've had is my current Bryant, go figure. Maybe I
just got a lemon or maybe it was mis-adjusted, it short cycled
constantly in heat mode, made a loud "poof" whenver it lit up, pretty
scary, and my chimney condensate increased greatly after it was
installed dripping down wall under the clean out hatch, and needed
several repair calls. Whereas the Bryant has been one dependable and
quiet little workhorse.
Had you taken the extended warranty...
had a decent tech do a yearly check up...
or a pre warranty expiration check up...
The variable speed is probably saving $15.00 a month, easy.
Take the blame off the mfgr & the climate & man up...
My & a few dozen others, utility bills, & we're all comfortable...
A VSD in constant operation is far more efficient than even a conventional
blower operating on call, in the heart of the heating or cooling season.
The added dehumidification is a huge benefit as well.
See, DC is a much more efficient powersource when use in close proximity of
Edison & Tesla & Westinghouse all new it,
Unfortunately the DC supply to a power grid in an urban area would require
huge quantities of copper to transmit.
Now if they'd just have used more localized transformers & generation, we'd
all be saving energy.
And I'd thought this string was dead...
DC *at the voltage you happen to need* is more efficient than AC,
because there are no transformer losses. But if the voltages don't
match, it's much more complicated and expensive to change voltage with
There are probably only a few houses sharing the same pole transformer
(and thus the same 120/240 V supply). All other distribution is done at
higher voltage. To get the same efficiency (both electric and copper
usage) with DC, you'd need a source for every few houses. But
generators that small aren't very clean or efficient.
Centralized generation and AC distribution, using several levels of
voltage, makes much more sense for supplying homes.
DC is sometimes used to transmit large amount of power long distances.
Now that is something I did not know...
I do know the AC distribution can eat up 20-30%+ of it's power in order to
boost it's voltage & keep up the flow,
but I've never heard of long distance DC distribution.
Any recommendations on a good read to explain it? I'd like to see how it's
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