About 3 am Wednesday I noticed that the fan that circulates the air
for our furnace and AC (blower fan?) had died. The AC itself hadn't,
and frost was accumulating where the coils lie inside the assembly
above the furnace. Turned everything off.
The furnace and (blower) fan are from 1985 (Carrier). We bought the
house in June 2008.
Repair guy came and said the capacitor had blown. He said he could
replace that for cheap, or he could replace the entire motor. We had
told him that we were tired of all these minor repairs, and given the
age of the unit it was time to replace the thing anyway. Apparently
replacing the motor would be fairly expensive (~$600).
We decided not to replace the motor.
He warned us that in his experience, if the capacitor goes on a very
old motor, the motor often (but not always) dies soon thereafter. He
was simply and honestly presenting the tradeoff to us.
So I came home about 5 pm this afternoon and the motor was making a
noise, kind of like a slightly noisy clothes dryer. Obviously not
good. An hour later, the motor was dead. ("Dead" equals humming and
Of course, we could turn around and spend the $600 as soon as they can
get out here again (he said they stock the part), but we're really
going to replace ASAP. (They can't get out here for an estimate until
the 19th. In the meantime we'll ask a couple other firms for
So...what's the best way to limp along until we get the new system,
which looks like it could be a couple weeks? We live in a suburb of
Washington DC and it's been hot as hell recently. (Probably why the
thing decided to burn out now---it's been working overtime.) I'd just
live mostly in the basement and deal with it, but we have 1 year old
twins, and having them sleep in the basement is a logistical PITA. Is
a reasonable thing to get a couple cheap window units, or is there
some better way of dealing with the situation?
People around there pay $600.00 to replace a blower motor? Holy smoke!
Give this guy, Scott Meenen a call, perhaps he can give you a better
price? He works that area and seems to know what he's doing.
Well, that's the same part of the world that spends a couple trillion
on union buddies, so what's six c'notes among friends?
I could probably get the specs, buy the motor here, and drive to DC to
install it for six c'notes.
Motor will cost 200.00 max. including regular UPS shipping.
I was expecting blower motor to quit soon and in advance I ordered
one from electricmotorwarehouse.com in Mich. I received it in 5 days
over the week end. They did a customs paper work as well including the
cost into price(~200.00). It took me ~2 hours to replace it. In time
for cooling season.
That's a pretty high price for a blower motor especially if it's
direct from a distributor. The only high priced blower motors I've
come across are the newer electronic variable speed blower motors.
The OP did say the unit was a 1985 model and that's going to have
a standard permanent-split capacitor motor unless the air handler
was retrofitted by outer space aliens. Humm, if the motor is ordered
online there could be high shipping charges due to weight.
Hmmm, Yourself. I have laying on my desk, invoices for today..2 indoor
blower motors at retail $269.34 Each and 2 Run capaci8tors at $4.53
each. This is a statement from Johnstone supply. I can dig out a couple
of dozen others from other vendors that run even more. I don't do this
for fun and I sure am not going to subsidized some cheap bastards
furnace parts. Don't forget I have to also pay the techs to put it in
and still make a fair profit. Also the Feds, the state and the locale
all want their taxes too. So 2 hours labor would be what in your book?
My guys change those out in 40 minutes. It does take a certain amount of
time to get there, troubleshoot to insure that the motor is definitely
bad. Also to insure blower wheel and cage are not out of balance..Or
would you rather change it again every 3 months? How much did it cost
you to change out the cooling fan motor on your car?
I don't usually buy motors from Johnstone even though I like the folks
there at the two different branches I go to for lots of other parts. I
get my motors from one of two motor supply/rewind companies around here.
There are times when I have to get a rewound motor like for the air
handler in an old office building or the 60 hp S frame that's the same
size as a modern 100 hp. The motor was driving a 5H60 Carrier open drive
compressor and it takes an engine hoist to pull one of those. I actually
found the guy who had rewound it 20 years before to get it done again.
Have you ever seen a half ton pickup truck squat when you gently set a
60 hp S frame motor on it?
Yes and I have Paid a $grand a day to raise rooftop units in place.
Maybe Steve can tell you about the Units for freezing fish by the ton.
If you have no idea what retail is, you are definitely not in the
business. Maybe you could import your own parts from China?
On 7/10/2010 8:51 AM, .p.jm.@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
Hey, why does everybody get me to carry the compressor up the ladder?
It takes too long to get parts from China, I smuggle them in from
Mexico! Why on earth you would pay retail for parts from Johnstone
when you can setup an account there and get them wholesale. I've
been purchasing parts from them for many years. Their catalog now
shows retail prices because so many end users were coming through
the doors but service companies don't pay the catalog price. Get
with the program, there are more places than Johnstone, as wonderful
as they are, to get parts and supplies. Hell, if I don't have an
account somewhere, I have a friend who does.
In The Southeast were I am, I usually get parts from:
Wittichen Supply Company
Johnstone Supply Company
W W Grainger
Baker Distributing Co.
Hinkle Metals & Supply Co.
Airguard Industries Inc.
Scotsman Ice Systems
Automatic Ice & Beverage Inc.
Washer and Refrigeration Supply Company
Appliance Parts Co.
A short list of just a few of the suppliers I
regularly obtain parts from not including all
of the electrical, electronic and plumbing supply
companies. I once designed a pneumatic bell ringer
for a friend's church and amazed him by taking him
around to all of the machine shops, fabricators
and industrial suppliers hidden away in all of the
nooks and crannies about the city. It takes years
to develop relationships with the suppliers around
town and unfortunately my favorite sheet metal
fabricator retired and closed up shop.
On 7/10/2010 5:09 PM, .p.jm.@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
We got a guy we call on who owns a bucket/crane truck when we need
something like that but I can slide a condensing unit up a ladder
with a couple of stout helpers. We, me and GB, have several guys we
call on for help with that sort of thing because we don't have the
muscle we once had. GB's butt fell of about the time he hit 62 and
having and surviving cancer didn't help the physical strength situation
at all. I've had circulation problems with my legs for a dozen years
so I'm not dancing around either but we keep on truckin'.
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