I would really appreciate some help in deciding what type of hedge to
plant as a boundary hedge between us and the neighbours.
The hedge needs to be as dense as possible to give us some privacy from
an extremely nosey and troublesome neighbour. We intend to grow the
hedge to a height of around 6ft and it must act as a dense screen. Maybe
A Laurel hedge is a main contender at the moment because of its nice big
leaves and i assume it will fill out fast.
We are looking to buy online and plant as soon as possible.
I'd think that Hawthorn would be good anywhere in the U.K.. Midland
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but if you are lucky enough to get old, the Hawthorn may come in handy.
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No one can really give you good information without knowing where you
are in the world, what the soil is like, amount of sun, amount of care you're
willing to put forth, etc.
Were you in the midwestern US, I'd remind you that the Osage Orange was
traditionally considered to be "head high and hog tight" as a hedge.
Hi Matt, You dont say where you live ? but with the sort of thing your
talking about, I dont suppose it really matters. Laurel would be fine
but I'm a little concerned about you keeping it to 6ft without becoming
a slave to it ! As your asking, I would be more inclined to plant
Eleagnus ebbingii, its almost as vigorous as laurel, very dense but it
does have spines and also very scented small white flowers but i think
you will find it easier to keep it dense to the ground (something that
laurel doesnt always do) If you wanted to be really mean and were
prepared to wait a little longer, consider also Pyracantha which is
viciously prickly but stunning when either in flower or berry.
I think, looking at all options, giving your requirements, i'd go
for the Eleagnus ebbingii.
> plant as a boundary hedge between us and the neighbours.
> an extremely nosey and troublesome neighbour. We intend to grow the
> hedge to a height of around 6ft and it must act as a dense screen. Maybe
> leaves and i assume it will fill out fast.
I find our laurel hedge is the easiest to maintain in the garden. Most
years a late summer trim is all it needs to maintain it, though after a
warm, damp spring it can need an early summer trim too. The new growth
remains sappy enough that cheap electric hedge trimmers do the job
without the dimensions of the hedge growing. It is certainly thoroughly
dense. Will also respond well to being cut back hard if you let it get
overgrown. From small plants will probably take you a couple of years to
get a 6 foot hedge, and another year for it to fill out properly.
I have an E. ebbingei bush and I find it trouble. Need to cut it at
least twice a year and it is sufficiently woody that tougher tools are
required. Pleased I only have the one bush, not a whole hedge of it.
It grows very fast. In theory it should have fragrant flowers in the
winter and berries in the spring, but our has only produced about 3
berries in total.
I think a hawthorn hedge could be hard and painful work to trim. Also
will lose much opacity during the winter. If you want a dense thorny
evergreen hedge, that isn't too much work, I'd have a look at the
various kinds of Berberis. Some of them are very dense, evergreen,
easily trimmed, and thorny. You can have an optically opaque hedge that
takes up less space than a laurel hedge. Plus it can have attractive
flowers and berries.
There are also suitable pyracantha for hedging, which is evergreen,
dense and thorny with attractive flowers and spectactular berries, but
being rather woody would be harder work to trim. Again, achieves an
opaque hedge with slightly less space than laurel.
> But I have half a memory of there being something else that looks rather
> like that, but I'd have to hunt through my fungus books for it some
> other time.
Had a hunt through my books, and didn't find any better ideas.
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Had a hunt through my books, and didn't find any better ideas.
I never saw the post you're responding to (as so often happens to me,
probably because of a crappy excuse for a newsreader) - much less whatever
text you originally responded to.
I thought I saw some twiggy/woody debris in the photo, and color
reproduction being what is often is (not to mention having no scale), I just
guessed at Chlorosplenium. Its identity is mostly academic anyway...if the
soil's too wet it would need to be corrected foremost. Removing the woody
stuff from a soil would only ensure any "dead-wood-eaters" won't return.
Thanks very much indeed for your detailed advice. I do like the sound of
a Berberis as an alternative. I like the idea of it taking up less
space. I wonder how fast it grows in height compared to a Laurel, any
When you first plant your hedge in well prepared and well fertilised
soil, and water it regularly, it can grow quite fast once established.
Subsequent growth can be slower when benign neglect and ruthless pruning
This is a useful resource. (I have no experience of them as a supplier,
it just looks to be a good compendium of information).
'Hedging Plant Index - Hedging Plants by Latin Name (Buckingham
Nurseries Online Catalogue)' (http://tinyurl.com/3pgx8zm )
Most Berberis, it says, grow only 1 foot per year, but it would seem
that B stenophylla is more vigorous and would give you about 18" per
year. On the other hand, they say that laurel grows only 6"-12" per
year, so these must be fairly conservative estimates, at least for
initial establishment, because I've watched a near neighbour grow a 6'
laurel hedge in 2-3 years.
These people sell a hybrid B ottowensis x Auricoma that they claim grows
about 2 foot per year. 'Hedges & Garden Hedging Plants Online - Hedges
Direct UK' (http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk /) Sounds like a triffid.
And if you are really in a hurry, these people will sell you 1m high
Berberis plants that they say will give you a 2m hedge with a season.
'RHS Hedging Plants | Bare Root Hedging | Instant Hedge | Hedge Nursery'
With hedges like laurel (or beech, etc) you will get quite fat trunks in
the interior of your hedge after a few years, and you need enough width
in the hedge to to have branches coming off those. With Berberis, the
main stems are much thinner, so the hedge can be thinner. An
interesting thing about Berberis, at least my Berberis darwinii, which
you discover when you prune it or snip a root, is that the wood and
interior of the roots is bright orangey yellow.
Laurel is a good choice but sometimes difficult to prune neatly because
of its large leaves.
Considering your requirements I would also consider Holley (Ilex) - A
bit more slow to grow but makes a great hedge and really dense once
established. Also Pyacantha (Firethorn). If you want prickly this is the
way to go (2-3inch thorns!) Also quick growing and provides a nice dense
hedge once established.
Hope this helps
Thanks Alex for the info, yes i remeber the leaves being just too big
for my parents trimmer when i used to cut theirs.
I shall check out the Pyacantha, thanks.
I would pick Holley if it grew quicker, i like it a lot.
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