You can ALWAYS find them at Lowes and Depraived (Despot....er, Depot) but check the center leaf worls for mealy bugs before purchasing. We got in a beautiful shipment of three gallon tropical plants with three different kinds of Chinese evergreens, and every durn one of them had mealies. I treated the pots (the pots were $5.98 by the way) with pyrethrum spray, isolated the plants for a week, treated them again three days later and sold them for reduced. They were pest free by the time I marked them down, and I assured the people who bought them I had killed the mealies. I sprayed not only the undersides of the leaves, but down into the newer growth, and soil as well. I told customers to watch for any possible survivors, and to spray with simple rubbing alcohol. 99% of the customers were happy with their reduced plants, I have to say. There are three or four patterned varieties out. They adore shady spots inside the house, and the eastern or northern sides of the porch or deck in spring and summer. That's where mine is now. I'll treat it for mealies before bringing it inside for winter before frost though as mealies adore it's tender stems. madgardener