You have an animal whose way of living involves mischief and destruction if
not watched constantly. You stated this yourself, although you don't like it
being stated a different way. Don't complain when the animal does exactly
what it's expected to do. This is like complaining that your toaster makes
your bread a darker color. It's what toasters do.
It's a waste of energy because I'm totally correct. I'm correct because I'm
good at compartmentalizing, which keeps me from being swayed by the fact
that some dogs are actually cute. This keeps my observations pure.
which is something dog owners take into account when owning them. Kids
destroy things and cost a shit load of money and still destroy things as
they get older (like cars, nights sleep and bank balances) but we still have
them as well.
no, both my dogs have grown more sedate with age. Even hyper active puppy
has moderated. She may still be bouncy but is knows the limits now. Older
lazy mutt was lazy as a pup but gets lazier with age.
As it is, some destructive kids grow into even more vile adults. We have
things called prisons for them.
i realize your neighbors are idiots & have badly trained
dogs, but not all, or even most, dogs are like that. really.
i'm NOT a dog person, but 99% of problem dogs are stupid
owners... not only that, but most of those problem dogs could
fairly easily be retrained to be good dogs if thier owners
i have neighbors with barky dogs (fortunately they're 1/4
mile away). i *did* have a newbie ex-city neighbor who let his
dog roam, but the application of a $500 fine stopped that
pretty quick...(or said dog was about to meet my .22).
the problem is stupid humans, not the dogs.
Well, that's mostly correct. Too many owners have those stupid extendable
leash things, and let their dogs run 30 feet into other peoples' property,
which often means "right in the flower beds". I ask them politely to not let
their dogs stop in my yard in the future, and they say "Well...I'm gonna
clean it up". Ummm...no. The dog just pissed on my flower bed, and I'm 2
minutes away from wanting to work with my hands in that very spot. And, even
if they clean up the crap, the scent remains and attracts stray dogs,
something I've observed for over 25 years. So, the only acceptable response,
when I tell them to do it elsewhere, is "Yes. OK." But, as I've mentioned
elsewhere, dogs train humans to do what's convenient, not what's
considerate, intelligent and legal.
You said I should wear gloves. Do you understand that by saying that, you've
stepped into a logical and legal quagmire, and that a judge would lead your
around his/her courtroom by the nose until you confessed to being silly?
Here's what the judge would probably ask you to think about. You notice some
noise outside your house. You step outside and see someone spray painting
words on your house in day-glo orange. While your wife's calling the cops,
you restrain the guy and ask him what the hell he thinks he's doing. He says
"Wear a blindfold, or stay inside and don't look".
When the police arrive, what would you expect them to do? How would you
expect all of it to proceed, from start to finish? Most important, which
basic law was broken when the person spray painted your house? Hint: The law
is basically the same everywhere in the United States, Canada, and most of
major problem in your analogy, spray painting property (public or private)
is deemed a crime. A dog pissing in your garden is not. Not picking up dog
crap in a public place is punishable by a local body fine. No local body has
yet figured out how to make a dog owner pick up dog piss.
Far easier for them to insist people who have problems with dog piss wear
gardening gloves I would imagine.
On the matter of urine Doug, where does your own urine go? Or your pooh? Do
you dispose of it on your own property or is it pumped to a municipal waste
treatment facility? What potential harm is your own crap doing to water
ways, local and global? Can I insist you only dump in your own back yard?
You're making this too complicated. If a homeowner tells you to take your
dog elsewhere, you have no choice but to obey. Otherwise, you've committed
civil trespass. That's illegal, and you can be arrested for it. The person
spray painting your house has committed the same crime, along with one or
As far as where my excrement goes, that's a silly question. I don't do it in
places where I need to work with my hands. If you think it's cute to let
your dog piss where someone needs to work, why not let your animal piss on
your kitchen counters, your remote controls, your ironing board, and your
When I walk my dogs I exercise control to ensure they piss in appropriate
places. If the mutt wanders onto someones property I go and retrieve it. I
don't make it a habit Doug of encouraging my mutts to piss in neighbours
gardens. Most all dog owners I know exercise the same approach. I doubt the
police will be too concerned with my walking on to someones property to
retrieve my dog.
and that is a highly subjective measure Doug, 'where someone needs to work',
and requires a degree of omnipotence. I am not always able to forsee where a
person may want to work when walking my dogs. Clearly I do not expect anyone
to want to work on the tree in the next 5 minutes or a bushy clump of weeds
along the front wall of their section. Whilst efforts are made to ensure
dogs piss in areas that will not cause a problem, on the odd occasion they
piss in someones garden that someone then wants to weed, a philosophical
approach by the gsrdener is by far the best approach. Garden gloves are very
simple things to use.
If a property owner tells you not to enter, you have no choice but to
comply. Your opinion is of no consequence.
You're in no position to assume ANYTHING about another person's property. If
this is not true, then, if I want to apply sealer to my driveway on a nice
warm day, it'll be OK with you if I park my car in YOUR driveway, blocking
in your cars for the 48 hours it takes for my driveway to be ready for use
again. Clearly, I do not expect anyone in your house to want to drive
anywhere in the next 48 hours.
Garden gloves covered in piss are not my idea of a good time. However, I
understand that some people get sort of a sick thrill out of playing with
human waste. It's a treatable condition.
Mind if I ask how old you are?
You object to wearing gloves while gardening to keep from getting dog urine
on your hands, yet you willingly put your hands into living soil that has an
untold number of microbes, bacteria, worms, insects, crustaceans, etc., all
excreting their waste byproducts exactly where your working.
Things that make you go 'Hmmmm'.
Gmail and Google Groups. This century's answer to AOL and WebTV.
if my mutt strayed into someones garden I would go and retrieve him. If the
home owner was home I would asked their permission. If they asked me to go I
would but would expect them to deal with the matter of mutt on property and
do so humanely without harm to dog else they would meet my baseball bat. Ie,
I respect peoples right to protect their property and who comes on to their
yes, it is convenient. I simply walk onto the property and get dog and if
owners are home, tell them what I am doing there, what I intend to do and
check they are ok with that. If they ask me to leave I do so. Very
convenient and simple to do. Much the same I suppose as you would react if a
Jehovahs Witness or Mormon came knocking on your door.
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