I know you're going to say it is a mulberry-- but my wife is quite
sure it isn't.
She saw it today at a patient's house. [she's a traveling nurse].
She says the top branches were way too high for her to reach and the
lady said she used to keep it trimmed but hasn't been well enough to
keep it contained recently.
Looks like a tree, not a bush. There are no thorns. Berries are
tasty & look like blackberries. Leaves are like oak leaves.
Zone 5ish in New York. [Schenectady county]
We have a black mulberry & I showed her a branch. Nope-- the leaves
are wrong, and the berries aren't quite right.
There is such a thing as a 'thornless backberry' but they are just like a
blackberry in every other respect ie, they have multiple stems and there is
no possible way that they could be described as a tree. I'll think about
it, but nothing comes immediately to mind.
Jim Elbrecht;928515 Wrote:
> I know you're going to say it is a mulberry-- but my wife is quite sure
> it isn't.
Probably a red mulberry then. Red mulberries (Morus rubra) have quite
variable leaf shapes, from nearly round to deeply lobed like black
mulberry, as can be seen if you google images for it. The one shown on
Wikipedia 'Morus rubra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
is a bit oak-tree leaf like. Despite the name, red mulberry fruits are
black when ripe.
I think if there was another Z5-hardy tree with tasty blackberry-like
berries, aside from the two kinds of black-fruited mulberry, I would
know about it, because I've done a lot of research into tasty things I
can grow. See this site. 'Plant Uses' (http://tinyurl.com/6l28ond )
I have seen bushes grafted on the top of a tree trunk. I looks pretty
wierd but it works as decoration. Before following that like I thought
in terms of a thornless blackberry version grafted onto a mullberry
Doug Freyburger;928598 Wrote:
> I have seen bushes grafted on the top of a tree trunk. I looks pretty
> wierd but it works as decoration. Before following that like I thought
> in terms of a thornless blackberry version grafted onto a mullberry
Blackberry = Rosaceae (rose family)
Mulberry = Moraceae (fig family)
Both are within the order of Rosids, but it still seems implausible to
graft at such distance of relation.
Well-- she went to the patient's house again today. The patient
gladly gave her a branch so I could identify it.
It is, as we all suspected, a Mulberry. The berries are much
smaller than the ones on my tree--- but they taste good! Mine are
huge, but a sickly sweet with little flavor- these are a bit tart and
tastier to me.
The leaves on this one are mostly deeply lobed where you really have
to search our tree to find the deeply lobed leaves. Our tree [a
15-20 yr old volunteer] is about 20 feet tall [and I prune it heavily
every few years] which is a lot taller than this lady's tree,
according to my wife.
Thanks to all for your replies-- I was so looking forward to a real
blackberry tree. Darn it.
I'm going to give it a try. She cut a 3-4' branch- wrapped the
cut end in paper towels & placed in a plastic bag. So, even after
a summer day in the trunk of her car, after a night in the pond it
looks pretty healthy today. I'm going to try a couple grafts on
my tree-- and try to root the remainders.
Mulberry isn't a common tree in my part of the world- so I just always
thought they were all as un-exciting as the one I have. It will be
nice to have one for the birds & squirrels and one for people.<g>.
The damn things would take over my yard if I let them . But you're right ,
the birds and aquirres love 'em .
Anybody want some peppervine starts ? I'm continuously pulling them out of
my garden . The ones in the "grass" I just mow .
You may have a discovery of interest to mulberry growers. There is a
mulberry market with named varieties, and probably some university
research programs - try googling "good tasting mulberry" or some such
for further info. -- H
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