After years and years...
I guess being an Architectural Record house helps...
More online publications coming soon, a nice write-up just done in
ArchitectNewspaper issue 18 (paper issue out now, online to come)
Where's your credit? No serious pictures.
I've got mixed emotions about it... It's cool because they actually
built it. I'm a fan of "modern" architecture, but I've long since
ceased to be a fan of the object in space called architecture. To me,
there's too little human in it. It's just geometric sculpture.
Congrats anyway...as much as we can give you.
Being the PA and doing CM work for the GC won't get much credit. Specially
when the GC isn't listed. Didn't you notice that it's all Van Berkel, Van
Berkel, Van Berkel in the PR?
The only place I've been listed in credits is in construction rags... but
that's OK I know I worked on the project since day one.
Sounds like a joke setup... OK I'll bite... I dunno, how DO you get to be
a Van Berkel?
Otherwise, the formula is simple really.
By being enthralled with and talking a lot of BS on theory and
architectonics, schmoozing with architecture rag publishers in social
circles, spending a lot of time hanging around with the "right crowd" in
museums and conferences, teaching at the university, authoring books,
getting on the lecture circuit, opening a "high end" design firm using only
unpaid interns, hiring only "star" students from your university, spending a
couple years only designing theoritical unbuilt projects and entering and
winning or doing well in design competitions and waiting for that one client
to finally take a bite of the worm on the end of your line. And most
importantly, having tons and tons of cash to be able to afford doing all of
that so as to "tie you over" until you can become a star architect.
If you do all of the above you can get published in about 5 years.
Easy right? Now get to it!
What the hell is that supposed to mean? I didn't hobnob enough to get a
listing in a NY Times article? Gimme a break.
Mike, I don't need your advice frankly. If I wanted to get into details for
what my agreement was, what credit I was to get etc, I'd have posted and
done that a long time ago. I posted because a lot of people in this NG were
interested in this project as it developed over the past 4 years.
A little history: I met with the owner (BTW it was at one of those "right
crowd" situations at MOMA) in 2001 and was introduced to the designer's US
representative shortly after that. I introduced these folks to my friend
(the GC) and played "the game" to the best of my ability. I convinced them
that my friend was the right guy for the job. Shortly afterwards it was
determined that I would provide the owner a separate CM agreement. I
coordinated the construction documents and prepared the bid package to
negotiate a contract between the owner and GC. Things went well with all
the negotiations and preparations to get the job started. The construction
contract was executed and for whatever reason, the owner preferred that I
just work "on the contractor's side" to make sure the job gets detailed that
way it was supposed to be. I said OK and our agreement was superceded. The
only stipulation was that I would get CM credit "if" the project were to be
Somewhere along the line (not too suprisingly) the GC and owner had problems
over change orders etc since the architect's office didn't have experience
with US methods. The relationship got strained though as you can see it got
built as detailed. And quite well. Very fine work. Unfortunately, the
strained relationship led to the GC (and me in effect) to only being listed
in "less important" publications.
No big deal frankly. I have received credit in several of these "less
important" publications. It's not going to prevent me from showing the
project to interested people. and I couldn't care less about becoming Van
The job is done and I was involved in another fancy swanky design project.
Who cares. It was a nice gig, it provides something to show and I'm quite
proud of having had a hand in the execution of it. Is that so wrong?
Maybe so but I don't think you were having around alt.architecture when this
project started so I guess I was just bringing you up to speed on the
Does this NG qualify as "hanging around with the right crowd" on the list
'how-to' of how to be a Van Berkel? ;-P
BTW, not too long ago I at first accepted an offer to do similar chores for
Alsop. The team started to push me around, so I "started to stop", then they
eventually dismissed me. Prolly did us both a big favor. A suspicious fire
destroyed a historically designated church on a site the developer on this
Alsop project owed and wanted to develop.
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