Rip The Ripper, Part 2: Digital Media Exchange 2008 and Beyond

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"There is evidence that the darknet will continue to exist and provide low cost, high-quality service to a large group of consumers. This means that in many markets, the darknet will be a competitor to legal commerce. From the point of view of economic theory, this has profound implications for business strategy: for example, increased security (e.g. stronger DRM systems) may act as a disincentive to legal commerce. Consider an MP3 file sold on a web site: this costs money, but the purchased object is as useful as a version acquired from the darknet. However, a securely DRM-wrapped song is strictly less attractive: although the industry is striving for flexible licensing rules, customers will be restricted in their actions if the system is to provide meaningful security. This means that a vendor will probably make more money by selling unprotected objects than protected objects. In short, if you are competing with the darknet, you must compete on the darknet's own terms: that is convenience and low cost rather than additional security."

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I've viewed Part 1, and there's now a Part 2:

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"...While they continue to command so much attention in the mainstream media, the 'battles' between old and new modes of distribution, between the pirate and the institution of copyright, seem to many of us already lost and won. We know who the victors are. Why then say any more? Because waves of repression continue to come: lawsuits are still levied against innocent people; arrests are still made on flimsy pretexts, in order to terrify and confuse; harsh laws are still enacted against filesharing, taking their place in the gradual erosion of our privacy and the bolstering of the surveillance state. All of this is intended to destroy or delay inexorable changes in what it means to create and exchange our creations. If STEAL THIS FILM II proves at all useful in bringing new people into the leagues of those now prepared to think 'after intellectual property', think creatively about the future of distribution, production and creativity, we have achieved our main goal."

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"The film [Outfoxed] says this pervasive bias contradicts the channel's claim of being 'Fair and Balanced', and argues that Fox News has been engaging in what amounts to consumer fraud."

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We'll leave the fear-mongering to Fox, the RIAA, the MPAA, Don et al.. ;)

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Warm Worm
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Did you watch that holiday movie that Secretia posted a while back?

Reply to
Michael Bulatovich

And yet it's also about business constructs.

-- Assuming it's theirs (to do with as they please), which of course it really isn't. It isn't in part because nature doesn't recognize artificial borders, and ultimately, neither do I.

If it weren't for gov't help/protection, many businesses would stop dead in their tracks.

Good work!

2007 was the year I learned bit torrent, and [ ;) ] was the last film of 2007 of many acquired that way. Part of me did it out of a desire for compensation-- from a feeling of being quite ripped off with all the bad films I'd seen. (Hollywood) Fight/Crash scenes, etc., can be so ridiculous because, for example, one or more good punches or impacts to a head, spine or nose, etc., can, and within a few brief seconds flat, break or kill-- despite many appearing and acting almost as fresh going in as coming out. (Reminds me in particular of the recent Die Hard sequel and the Bourne Ultimatum.)

Hollywood often relies too much on the 'suspension of disbelief' for my taste. Maybe they'll start suspending some disbeliefs of their own with regard to file-sharing and start making friends with their downloaders, rather than enemies.

"The fundamental problem is that copyright pretends that information is property"

- Ian Clarke, developer of Freenet

Reply to
Warm Worm

No, are you suggesting it's worth a watch? What was it again?

Reply to
Warm Worm

Don't know you well enough to steer you to that one. I did watch it, and while I did find it had glaring mistakes in it, it was thought provoking in some ways...I'm still sifting through it's resonances...

Reply to
Michael Bulatovich

Well your mere mention of it seems like a bit of a steer. :)

thought provoking in

Reply to
Warm Worm

Some of the themes in your post are in the movie, and so on my mind lately s'all.

Reply to
Michael Bulatovich

It's obvious even basic fact and source checking was often ignored or not even performed. Never the less, I thought the movie was an excellent example of manipulation, itself and it's topics. Entertaining enough to be worth the price of admission.

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Secretia Green

I'll concur with that. It's led me through a maze of subjects in what started out as a fact-checking exercise. Some of those relate to some things I was into 30 years ago, when I was last career-shifting, so it feels a bit deja vu.

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Michael Bulatovich

It has every right and it's already there. Nature comes and goes as it pleases. And it feeds you, lodges you, reproduces you, and in the end, kills you... How about that for rights, ay? ;)

In that comment, I wasn't giving it credit-- quite the opposite.

You might need some kind of system to uphold/maintain your market system though... some kind of authority or government. And at the hands of business, there might form private kingdoms or corporate mono/oligo/polies to do their "tax-collecting" and various other dubious activities... Oh wait, I think we already have that.

I thought that we already agreed that not all governments are governments. Maybe we should call them something else.

Ok.

I doubt that being tracked is much of a concern at this point, but even so... And at any rate, the open source/libre music I have is enjoyed more than the commercial fare, which is dying out on my system. I've also started watching "libre" movies.

Oh well... Perhaps if you lived in a socialist state, you wouldn't have that kind of market-problem. ;)

I hear that there's corrective surgery for some of what creates the need for Depends in the first place. IOW, one may not have to walk around in a soiled undergarment.

To be fair, in a sense, I agree; but in another, I don't. It just depends. You can purchase and walk around in a soiled undergarment and call the problem 'managed', or actually go in and fix it. There may be less potential profit in that, though.

Reply to
Warm Worm

Ok guys, I just downloaded it-- Zeitgeist, right? For anyone else interested, it's available for free via the Vuze BT client(/site?) as a very fast download.

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Warm Worm

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