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On 04/18/2013 08:14 PM, Dave wrote:

Bawn Jure.
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On 4/18/13 10:14 PM, Dave wrote:

I'd a link for this show. How long was the training? A weekend?
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Probably not much more. I'm searching for a link to this show. I'll let you know if I find it.
The main point of the show was that people react differently under stress. And apparently, to properly handle yourself under those situations, you have to constantly train for and be prepared for them.
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On 4/18/13 10:42 PM, Dave wrote:

The point is the show is bullshit. You need trained to use tools and weapons, period. Private firearms owners routinely practice and train more than police officers. And what would be the big deal of requiring training? Instead of passing laws to ban weapons, pass laws to insure people who are exercising their 2nd Amendment rights get proper training. I'm all for that.
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Better yet, require training and license parents ...
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Yeah! I have been reluctant to say it but I firmly believe that the biggest problem with our society in the U.S. is that in most cases both parents work and are not available for their kids. Too busy trying to stay up with the Jones and not paying enough to what really matters, our children.
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On 4/18/2013 10:14 PM, Dave wrote:

They were Canadian! ;~) Canadians are used to living with out guns and I feel that is OK if that is what you want. But our constitutions gives us the right to have fire arms and that is a very old tradition so we are not going to poop when we see a gun.
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Yeah, ok, that's funny. A polar bear or moose, we Canadians are prepared to wrestle them to the ground, but we when we come up against other people with guns, we run and hide in our igloos.
You better hope that when I find the information on this show, that it wasn't a US made show.
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Regardless of how this discussion ends up lets not be mad at one another. And my mentioning your gun laws and Canadians still being killed by guns was absolutely not intended to be below the belt. I continue to maintain that regardless of how strict gun laws are the innocent law biding people are the most likely to be killed by a gun. It would be like trying to out law bad weather.
Now concerning your show, I would not be at all surprised if it was filmed in California but NOT IN TEXAS! :-)
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Yes, but if the show was made in California you'd more likely die of stress related cancer from the lead in the hand gun bullets.
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Now you are talking! LOL
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And as an example of crap that slides through is the new gun control law thar requires AZ law enforcement to quit destroying guns that were voluntarily turned in an start reselling them. How in the world does that control guns.
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On 04/19/2013 05:32 AM, Leon wrote:

Those buying the turned in guns from law enforcement must pass a background check. The state would like to recover the money it paid out for the turned in guns. The result is those guns are now in the hands of law abiding citizens and the state isn't losing money to accomplish that. Also, many of those turned in guns are non-functional and end up being destroyed anyway.
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Isn't that the truth. A community group here in Indianapolis sponsored a gun buy-back last summer. I got two crisp new fifty-dollar bills for a .22 revolver that could not be cocked, and a 20-ga break action shotgun with fixed sights that were off by two feet at ten yards. Many of the other guns I saw being turned in were obviously very old and rusty -- and nearly all of them were long guns.
I don't think it accomplished very much except to make the leaders of that community group feel good about themselves.
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On 4/19/2013 10:14 AM, Doug Miller wrote:

Exactly. Politics working as usual.
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On 4/19/2013 8:27 AM, Doug Winterburn wrote:

improved gun control. Yes improved in balancing out costs for the program but not for keeping the guns out of circulation.
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email.me:

experience with last summer's gun buy-back in Indianapolis -- the buy-backs provide a convenient way for law-abiding citizens such as myself to get some money for junk guns that no rational person would ever buy. My only regret at participating in that charade is that the Indy buy-back offered only fifty bucks per gun, instead of the $100 typical in Chicago. :-( That, and the 2.5 hours (!) spent waiting in line. At least it was a nice day.
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On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:45:43 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller

These posts had a plus for me I went looking at some rifles that were my grandfathers. I've never done anything with them just kept them stored in the house. Turns out one of them is a Colt Lightening made in 1888. Seems to be in good working order and has some value. Guess I'll have it looked at by an expert and decide what to do with it. Even have ammunition for it assuming properly stored ammunition is usable after 30-40 years. Not being a gun expert I'll be consulting one.
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These posts had a plus for me I went looking at some rifles that were my grandfathers. I've never done anything with them just kept them stored in the house. Turns out one of them is a Colt Lightening made in 1888. Seems to be in good working order and has some value. Guess I'll have it looked at by an expert and decide what to do with it. Even have ammunition for it assuming properly stored ammunition is usable after 30-40 years. Not being a gun expert I'll be consulting one.
I've got a Colt 'Thunderer,' the .41 caliber version and the same model Billy the Kid was alleged by some to have carried. Mine has NEVER worked and the internals have for years been corroded to the point of being frozen. The exterior plating was well-worn even then. My father's father gave it to me in September, 1968 so I could take it to gunsmithing school at Trinidad State Junior College. Granddaddy had been a special agent for the Southern Pacific railroad in Navasota, Texas when he bought it off a college student in 1915 returning home for Christmas break and who did not want his folks to know he had it. I remember the purchase price being $1.50 including a very small paper bag of cartridges. I still have the cartridges; they didn't work in 1968 much like the pistol.
Back then I could manipulate the hammer into the cocked position and, while holding it with my thumb, manipulate the trigger until I felt the sear disengage. At that point I could release the hammer with my thumb which would fall with sufficient force to dent the cartridge primer. Alas, no ignition with Granddaddy's ammo - probably just as well. I've never seen another revolver with cylinder walls as thin as this Colt's and would certainly never have considered smokeless power even in reduced loads. Granddaddy recounted that he had only fired it once himself, at a 'polecat' which I took to mean a skunk. He didn't say whether it was of the two-legged or four-legged variety.
At Trinidad I couldn't wait to try to restore it and was elated when I found that one of my instructors, a Mr. Praeter (sp?) was an encyclopedia in all things Colt. He wouldn't touch it, wouldn't even look at it advising me to trash it. "Worst POS to ever come out of Colt," or words to that effect. I wonder to this day why Billy the Kid would have carried one. Perhaps it contributed to his untimely death? Nah . . . .
This is a short, concise history of the gun: http://www.unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Colt1877DA/colt1877da.html .
Dave in Houston
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So wait until some civic-minded soul decides to sponsor a gun buy-back in Houston, turn it in, and get fifty bucks or so for a worthless hunk of metal.
Worked for me.
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