Oil for guitar fingerboards?

There's been a friendly debate going on in alt.guitar.bass about what sort of treatment is best for guitar fingerboards, many of which are rosewood. I've heard lemon oil (which I know is just "flavored" mineral oil) can actually cause drying out (which I don't understand), and a host of other theories. I'm interested in opinions from this crowd. The goal is to apply something that'll remove normal hand dirt, and then leave the fingerboard somewhat moisturized, but not VERY oily.

Reply to
Doug Kanter
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what about Fingerboard Oil? There are a number of mentions online.

Dave

Reply to
David

Probably, but I'd find it hard to believe that there isn't a more commonly available product used by woodworkers who make furniture or little wooden jewelry boxes. By "commonly available", I mean something in the category of tung oil or other things you can find at Home Depot, or a woodworking specialty store. (I like to avoid ordering things online when the shipping cost exceeds the value of the product involved).

Reply to
Doug Kanter

I don't claim to be that great at woodworking or guitar playing, but I do both (neither one professionally). Because I do both I love guitars not only for their musical value, but as highly refined and functional woodworking pieces (I'm talking about real guitars, not the junk that gets spit off the Asian assembly lines at a rate of a couple thousand per day). Most well made guitars I've seen don't have any sort of finish on the fingerboard. They say that fine instruments only get better with use. And hand oil--not hand dirt--is, in my opinion, one of the reasons for this. If you pick up a guitar that has been used a lot for a long time, it has a feel that cannot be achieved through any process other than having fingers with their natural oils dancing up and down the fret board. It's a natural process like the smoothing of river rocks tumbling in a stream. This natural oiling process can also give some indication as to the players style. Look closely at the patterns on the finger board and you'll get some idea of where he chooses to do most of his playing. Does he stay mostly in the first position using mostly open chords or does he do a lot of soloing in the mid to high range. To me this is all part of the guitar's character and story. And if it's a fine instrument that is worth handing down to future generations, those generations should not be deprived of the story.

The only oil that get's put on the necks of my guitars is hand oil. That is, clean hand oil- not hand oil mixed with hand dirt.

For those reading that are not interested in guitars, think of an old wooden plane or the wood handles of your favorite hand tools. My uncle has some that have decades of hand oil deposits. You can't get the same feel from any comercially available finish or oil. To me it's a desirable feel that would be ruined if you tried to monkey around with it.

If there's already dirt on the finger board, I would use a rag lightly dampened with water to rub it off. The water will loosen the dirt, but won't disolve the hand oil. After the dirt is removed apply additional layers of hand oil finish by playing at every possible occasion.

Reply to
davide1209

Agree with completely. Rosewood and ebony, which is what most fingerboards are made of, do no need any 'moisterizing'. If you have a fingerboard cracking or splitting because it's too dry, then it must be from the last millenia (time to call a museam). Also Keep in mind any oil you add to the fingerboard will also transfer to the the strings, and oil on the strings (especially the bass E, A, D) is not a good combination.

No oil, just TLC.

Reply to
Todd the wood junkie

What, 5 years ago you mean?

That's the point I was going to make. Every time I've tried to put any kind of treatment on a fretboard or the strings, it tends to make the strings go "dead" not long afterwards.

I tend to agree. Wipe it clean with a clean, dry cloth from time to time, and you'll be fine.

Reply to
Dave Hinz

What makes you think that?

Reply to
Doug Miller

well rosewood is pretty oily wood to start with. unless you are keeping the guitar in some harsh conditions or are cleaning it regularly with acetone I don't see the need to add oil at all. depending what kind of instrument this is the finish may affect the sound, and I'm by no stretch qualified to recommend anything to help there. as far as cleaning it, something like murphy's oil soap is probably about right. a film finish like laquer should make it easier to clean, but again may affect the sound....

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bridger

Take a look at these old Usenet threads via google:

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's%20guitar%20honey%22&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wgI've been using Harvey's Guitar Honey (the same bottle in fact) on all my guitars since about 1988. I don't think he's making it any more, but these threads include a lot of other suggestions from guitarists.

-kiwanda

Reply to
Kiwanda

The ingredients on the container sitting right in front of me. Weiman Natural Mineral Oil. If others are closer to pure lemon oil, I didn't find any available around here.

Reply to
Doug Kanter

Then you have lemon-flavored mineral oil. You don't have lemon oil.

Reply to
Doug Miller

OK...let's back up. In my original message, what did you really think I meant when I said: "I've heard lemon oil (which I know is just "flavored" mineral oil)" ???

How did you interpret that?

Reply to
Doug Kanter

Guitar fingerboards are usually ebony or rosewood. They do not need any finish or oil. To clean a fingerboard, take the strings off and use fine steel wool.

Guitars should be properly humidified. Take the proper precautions to keep them from drying out or getting too much humidity.

Why would you want a fingerboard "moisturized"? It's normal moisture content is fine as long as it's not too dry - usually evident by sharp fret ends protruding. Don't confuse moisture (water) with oils. Big Daddy

Reply to
Big Daddy

I think I (and other players) have been brainwashed by the guitar makers, who also sell little bottles of stuff. :-(

Reply to
Doug Kanter

Well, I'm not Doug, but I interpreted it as equivalent of "The substance commercially sold as 'lemon oil' is actually just lemon-flavored mineral oil". Not sure if that's what you meant, but that's what I read it as. Sounded like you were making a global statement about all things sold as "lemon oil".

Dave Hinz

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Dave Hinz

You're correct about my meaning. As far as "global", no. I was only commenting on the 3 products I ran across in stores, which included the one I finally bought.

Miller probably thought I meant that lemon oil, when first extracted from lemons, contained mineral oil. Miller's funny that way.

Reply to
Doug Kanter

OK, so what you said wasn't what you meant. Got it.

What's "funny", is that even though someone else has now agreed that your wording isn't what you meant, you blame your failure to write clearly on Doug.

Reply to
Dave Hinz

No, I drew the obvious conclusion: that you think (as you stated) that lemon oil is nothing more than lemon-flavored mineral oil. It isn't.

Reply to
Doug Miller

There have to be some assumptions made in any discussion, or it would take years to discuss most anything. I assume that most people who mentioned lemon oil in this thread were referring to modified products sold in stores, not pure, unadulterated lemon oil. Further, it would be just plain stupid to think that a lemon contained petroleum distillates.

"I was driving down the road and the car stalled".

"What did you do with the elephant?"

"What elephant?"

"The one riding on top of your car".

"What??? That's ridiculous".

"Well, you didn't explicitly say there was NOT an elephant on top of your car".

Reply to
Doug Kanter

The meaning is obvious to anyone with ordinary skills at reading the English language, and no "interpretation" is necessary: you believe that lemon oil is "just 'flavored' mineral oil".

That belief is incorrect.

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Doug Miller

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