So you pulled the trigger, eh? Good on ya. We expect a full report.
But you now have serious problem. How is the SawStop black going to go with
the Festool green? They definitely clash. Time to call in a decorator.
Yeah! And or all the white on the other stuff. I hope I am mistaken,
SawStop may have missed the boat on color. It looks really good when
clean. I'll add that I am not a stickler for having a pristine
"looking" shop when it comes to dust. I'm hoping that the saw will not
look 10 years old after a days work. ;~)
You beat me to it Han! LOL... I just mentioned the same thing.
IIRC we have never had to cut that much plywood before but did do about
27 sheets IIRC when we did 2 kitchens at the same time. My Chevy Pickup
was say'n Sheeeeeeee'it.
Leon, I have had a chance to use a Sawstop, one that was tuned up by a
factory trained rep. That saw was SWEET. Quiet, powerful, accurate,
and the fit and finish on the saw was excellent.
If I were to buy a table saw, that would probably be my top choice.
It is in a wood shop now and has been used by a lot of different
folks, and all the baloney you hear about the saw firing off in an
almost random manner isn't true. I even cut some wet pressure treated
wood on it and it was fine.
However, the manager of the shop showed me a tiny scratch on his
finger... the piece of wood he was ripping shattered (some kind of
hardwood he scrounged that was cracked) and he slipped forward and his
finger touched the blade. He said there was a loud bang that
traumatized him more than the little nick, and when he recovered, he
put the new cartridge in the saw. The blade was ruined, but the
cartridge only took about 15 minutes to install and he was back in
Oh yeah... he only had a nick on his finger instead of a bunch of
I like those machines << a lot >>.
On 4/7/2013 4:36 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Ouuuu very good to hear Robert! Thanks for the extra check mark of
If I go back with a traditional cabinet saw it will be a SawStop. But
this saw being the one that replaces my last, "last saw", again I want
to consider all the options. About the only other saws in the hunt are
the European saws, Still looking at Laguna and now Hammer.
The SawStop that you tried out, do you know if it was the Pro version or
the Industrial version? The pro has the plastic motor cover on the left
side of the saw and the industrial has the steel motor cover on the right.
I have looked at both but not quite close enough to make a decision. I
did not want to waste a lot of time, well more than I have already done,
investigating a saw that I was not quite ready to buy. I had no Idea
that my saw would sell so quickly. I really was not in a hurry to sell
it. I do like the table size of the industrial, 3" deeper and
conducting a scientific test similar to the integrity SAG test I
conducted on the desk upper storage cabinets, the industrial was a much
heavier feel'n SOG.
Darn near all of the Euro saws that I am considering have a sliding
table, and the Laguna has a scoring blade. The biggest problem I have
with the Euro saws is that they would be more trouble to move around and
that would be a daily routine for me, and the Euro style rip fences wold
have to be removed by sliding them off the end of the round steel bar.
There would be no more lifting the fence straight off the saw. I
extensively use the "T" stile fence on both sides and that would no
longer be possible. I am sure I can find work arounds for all of these
issues but do I want to? OH and all the Euro saws are right tilt.
Any way I'll keep y'all posted. Seems there might be a new Hammer
dealer in Dallas, I might be able to touch and feel the saw.
I snagged this thread back around 2002.
Q: How many rec.woodworking subscribers does it take to change a light
- 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the list that the light bulb
has been changed.
- 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently.
- 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
- 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
- 53 to flame the spell checkers.
- 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light
bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list.
- 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
- 109 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take
this thread to alt.lite.bulb.
- 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and
alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped.
- 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts ARE relevant to this group.
- 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
this technique, and what brands are faulty.
- 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
- 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected
- 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to
this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list.
- 33 to summarize all posts to date, then quote them including all
headers and footers, and then add "Me Too."
- 12 saying they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the
light bulb controversy.
- 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three".
- 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
- 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
- 47 to say this is what rec.woodworking was meant for, leave it here.
- 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.
- 37 empty posts.
- 250 debating the merits of magnetic light bulb filters.
- 3 giving you URLs for really sexy adult light bulbs.
- 74 to say look it up on google
- 32 to post pictures of light bulbs to this non-binaries group
- 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to
condemn those 6 as stupid.
- 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp".
- 15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb"
is perfectly correct.
- 17 "business" experts saying it is impossible to turn a profit changing
light bulbs and how much it actually costs a "professional" light bulb changer
in supplies, overhead, labor, insurance, etc to come in and change it for
- 93 or so that will tell you that you HAVE to HAVE the $1,499 light bulb
changer as opposed to the $8.99 at HD or Lowe's, even if you only change
lightbulbs on the weekends.
- 9 reminding you that light bulbs don't need changing under Linux
- 4 saying how under Mac O.S. xx anyone can change a bulb right out of the
- 3 to blame Bill Clinton for the fact that the original bulb burned out.
- 3 more to say that George Bush is too dumb to change a light bulb.
- 3 math flamers saying: I get 1621, not 1331.
- 43 asking for plans on how to change a light bulb.
- 1 posting 27 unrelated plans, that were found while searching for
plans on how to change a light bulb.
- 31 saying that Real Light Bulb Changers don't use plans.
- 12 complaining about top posters!
- 21 warning of the dangers of DUST generated while changing said light
- 1 to quote the statistics of the thread.
- 42 to complain that the light bulbs you get from Sears are crap.
- 27 criticizing Norm for using light bulbs instead of illuminating his shop
with candles like the true craftsmen would have done in the old days.
- 3 to point out that it is Bill Gates fault that the bulb burned out in the
- 3 more to blame Ronald Reagan.
- 30 to blame Bush.
- About 12 to complain about outsourcing to India, and ask if anyone knows of
any programming jobs.
- 1 lone soul to blame Bill Clinton.
- 1 nut to say that we are destroying the planet to generate electricity to
power your light bulb, and you should replace it with an organic candle.
- Several to decry the light bulb industry for the "obscene" markup on
- 1 to explain how to weld the filament back together. (with a 110 volt wire
feeder of course).
- 928 to insist that only a Miller 110 volt wire feeder will do the job.
- 1002 to insist that it must be a Lincoln.
- 2 to ask if flux core wire will work.
- 1 old timer to recommend hammer welding the thing.
- 8 guys to say they have oxy/acy welded thousands of fillaments back
- 121 to comment that "if you can't TIG it, then stay on the porch".
- 6 to ask if they can TIG it with CO2, so they don't have to buy another
- 347 people to debate weather you can buy, or have to lease a big argon
- 13 to decry the use of "made in china" light bulbs.
- a couple more to blame it all on Gates.
- 1 to link to his ebay auction of light bulbs.
- 6 to call that ebay guy a spammer.
- 1 guy to describe how he powers his light bulbs with a home made VW diesel
running on bio diesel fuel.
- and, 2,379 to say "I don't know about light bulbs, I've never owned a light
bulb, never seen a light bulb nor changed one...... BUT, here is what I
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