Hearing protection with biscuit jointer

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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:21:16 -0500, Silvan

Yeah, I can take any fingernails on a blackboard but give me the high-pitched whine of a CRT or failing PCB circuit (or the feel of some types of frosted glass) and my nerves go wild.
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Mark,
From what I have learned, there is little that can be done about the ringing, but I would check into it anyway. Maybe some new discovery...
As for the loud Italian family - I have it on both sides, mine and my wife's. I have found the ear muffs work well, but can offend the sensibilites of some of the old timers. If you wear ear plugs and keep your hair long, they can't tell. Eliminates the holiday-headache syndrome too!
-Chris
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Chris wrote:

I don't hold out much hope.
Last time I went to a ear/eye/nose/throat specialist he examined me and said there was nothing he could do for my ears but he could fix my nose. ??? But it's not my sinuses driving me nuts.
My tinnitus started with noise but has been aggravated by a neck injury (disks protruding into my spine). I have imperical evidence. I lifted something heavy the ringing/ eeee got worse. Before that if I slept wrong I would have a hum. I could cite all sorts of experiences. I told this to a neck surgeon who said he never heard of this so it was highly unlikely, I told my primary physician who said it was impossible.
Doctors, make a direct observation, they tell you what you have experienced didn't happen. I do a little web research and it seems some auditory phenomena can be traced to the brain stem. Go figure.
Doctors ....

If I had hair it may be an option (another doctor story).
Part of the problem is, in my Celtic-Austrian family, when there was that much ... noise ... someone was either getting their ass kicked or about to. When Ma squawked it was time to duck. Allot of the in-law noise problem is my upbringing verses the in-laws culture. Add tinnitus and it becomes explosive.
To be fair, Wife and I would visit her parents and have a perfectly fine time. It's only when her siblings are involved. To be even more fair, I don't do crowds well at all.
Then there's the thing where the neighbors dog barks at least 100 feet away that makes distorted noises in my ears.
Yeah, folks, wear hearing protection. You don't want any part of this. I thought it was bad when it was mild. Now that it's worse I think it's bad. I don't want to know how much worse it can get. And I haven't really addressed the depression/ distress part of this condition.
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i had this. look into an acd. (http://www.esurgeon.com/scripts/content/treatmentoptions/neck-anteriorcervi caldiscectomy.html). fixed me right up. i can walk better, and regained feeling in my fingers.

took doctors about 20 years to find the problem in me, 3 different ones in the past 5 years alone.
regards, charlie cave creek, az
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Charles Spitzer wrote:

<http://www.esurgeon.com/scripts/content/treatmentoptions/neck-anteriorcervicaldiscectomy.html .

Bookmarked. Thanks.
I've known I was looking at a double fusion for several years, and I'll admit I'm a coward about it. I've done some dangerous things, even screwed up a few times and hurt myself. That's completely different than *knowing* it's going to happen.
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says...

Yep, both my grandfathers made the same argument regarding running a tractor without hearing protection. Both of them wound up wearing hearing aids by the time they were in their 70's, one of them couldn't hear very well even then. My dad needed hearing aids in his late 60's, same source. I have a certain amount of high frequency loss due again to the same source -- have you actually had your hearing checked or are you like grandfather #2 who thought he could hear just fine, people just didn't talk loud enough?
Fact of the matter is that with hearing protection, you aren't giving up situational awareness, you still hear the machinery and are more likely to hear a machine problem.

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My PC557 is noisy. Do what makes you happy, M&J. Are you two joined at the hip like that new movie with Greg Kinnear?
dave
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I think he concluded this when the corn came out.
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My 557 is noisy. You bet I use hearing protection.
Rob

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If using it on and off for more than 15 minutes, I'd recommend using earmuffs. If using other tools as well, definitely.
If you don't like using earmuffs, shop around for a comfortable pair, hearing loss is cumulative, and the voice ranges are typically the last to go - DAMHIKT.
regards,
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Ear protection, like eye protection, is always advisable...tho I've been in this trade for 40 years and seldom use ear protetion... I the more so need ear protection from the little woman of the house.
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 04:34:06 GMT, Mark & Juanita

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 04:34:06 GMT, Mark & Juanita
Do ya'll use

What say?
(tom - who figgers it was the endless hours of standing in front of a Vox Super Beatle/Fender Twin Reverb (tubes)/Peavey that was the beginning of the end of his hearing - it ain't all bad - it's a built in excuse to hear what you want to hear when yer wife is yammerin)
"Why is your amplifier always turned to 10?"
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Tom Watson writes:

Nothing so fancy for mine. My first tour at the Parris Island rifle range, they wanted to burn up some WWII/KW ammo...sl we shot the course either 9 or 10 times (we only moved stations 2-3 times, I think). That's about 500 rounds of .30 caliber out of the spout of an M1. My damned ears have ringing ever since.

You sure you don't live down the block from me? Actually, we've got a new bar (in WV, this is a nightclub..the Nip & Cue), a whole block from the local elementary school, about 4 blocks from my house. I can literally feel their subwoofer set up when I try to sleep. Call the cops? Bet on it. Results. Semi-snotty voice from the guy on duty as he takes down the info. That's it.
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On 14 Dec 2003 14:31:23 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self) wrote:

Do you have city sewers?
Bass has been known to travel through sewer systems. Occasionally, a section of pipe will even end up with just the right dimensions to amplify it.
I worked on a job where a nightclub was killing a residential area with bass. Correcting it required the installation of some jogs in the home feeds to detune it. <G>
Barry
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B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:

That bar must have had some big juice. I'd expect most localities would just tell them to turn the damn thing down, lest they have their permits revoked and be rezoned into a daycare center. :)
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Silvan notes:

Yeah. But some won't bother with such minor stuff. After all, the bar employs people. I think that's what they are though I'm not prepared to debate the "yes" side of the issue.
Got a doozy just opened up 4 blocks from here in an old bakery. I really think I prefer the aroma of fresh bread at 2 a.m.
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:27:51 -0500, Silvan

It really wasn't loud, falling well within the established noise guidelines,as measured by contractor after contractor. The plumbing made it loud for the homeowners. <G>
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On 14 Dec 2003 14:31:23 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self) wrote:
[snip] . My damned ears have ringing ever since.
And that's worse than just some reduction in hearing. Soon as you're done making noise you take off the hearing protection because the inferno ringing starts to drive you nuts with out the normal background noise to cover it up some. DAMHIKT
John, in Minnesota
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Tom Watson wrote:

Not me, buddy... I guess I couldn't hack it in a rock band. My only amp is a little Roland Jazz Chorus-77 (solid state, very clean, twin 8" woofers) and mine is set at about 3 now. Sometimes even 3 is too loud.
I guess I'm just a pussy.
Not that it matters, since I'm the only audience I ever have, and I sound great to me just like I am.
Well, sort of. Depends on how drunk I am how good I sound. :)
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