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On 12 Oct 2004 16:19:51 -0700, half snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com (Mike) wrote:

Very True. Most of the tech groups are gone now. Example If you want CDr or DVd help you have to find a web forum. All the pros have left usenet.
RW has become a chat group for a few old timers. Many newbies are either dissed or ignored.
I doubt anything can save usenet. Like Rome, the unwashed hoards are at the gate, over the gate, and in our yards. All the filters in the world can't beat them back.
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After 13 years of Usenet, and FidoNet before that, I've heard that old song about a hundred times each year.
It's simply a matter of perspective. What most experience when they are no longer "newbies" is that their own internal estimation of what constitutes a "pro" and "old timer" changes, along with their expectations ... everything else remains the same.
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I disagree. The change is very real. Usenet used to be the #1 place to find answers to almost any kind of technical question. This stopped being true within the last 2 years, but the last 8 months have been far worse. Now it's almost useless to ask tech question in many kinds of groups. But the web forums, that used to be the playground of the clueless, are bursting with instant expertise.
I've been here since 1994 and the changes I've seen in the last year is very ominous. Usenet, all of usenet has become the home of the political loonies, and they aren't going to leave in november.
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In the beginning you had to be technical to have access!Only us geeks were on.
Now "every nut with a modem" is here. But, I kind'a think that was the point.
What puzzles me is why the folks that are distressed about the signal to noise ratio participate? The technology exists for anyone to stand up their own discussion boards.
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I think that is mostly the case. I just spent a few minutes looking at the relevant, on-topic posts from recent days, and the topics are depressingly familiar. Many of the things being discussed now are filed away in my archives from a few years ago. There may be more "clueless newbies" apparent, but that is not necessarily bad. The truth is that in my participation on this group (6-8 years?) there have been *very* few discussions that got into real intense woodworking and they tend to come in bunches. The loss of a few highly skilled and articulate posters has also contributed to a bit of a downturn on those types of discussion, but it really hasn't changed that much.
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