headquarters and some warehouses are here. They took over the big, old
public health hospital on Beacon Hill in Seattle for their headquarters.
Much of their shipping for the book business used to be here too. Until
they hired a guy from California.
He pointed out that they were in an earthquake zone. And as per cooperate
earthquake rules, you never have more than a third of your corporate
business function in an earthquake zone. So they started backing everything
up in several locations and making plans for moving people if a big
earthquake happened. And they started establishing warehouses and shipping
centers elsewhere. It was a big deal because, wherever they built, they
would have collect sales tax on local sales.
And they did. But they draw the line on a referral sale. I wonder how much
money is being lost by the state who insist on doing this. They know that
they can't charge tax to folks outside of the state. The do collect taxes on
the various businesses in the state no matter who they sell to. And they
now are losing that tax.
Apparently they are upset that they don't get to double tax the sale.
This has always been the law for Illinois sales tax. A company with some
physical presence in the state is responsible for collecting the tax on
Illinois retail sales. Amazon dodged around it by using "affiliates". Amazon
didn't collect, but technically, any Illinois affiliate shipping to an
address inside the state was required to collect it.
There is also a "use tax" in Illinois. It has been in effect since '55. In
effect if you buy items from out of state for use in Illinois, the purchaser
is supposed remit the tax. (you get credit for sales taxes paid to other
states). Reporting this has been on the honor system, and as a result nobody
ever does it.
Amazon could have probably stayed ahead of the curve by only connecting
interstate buyers and sellers.
But it would not have lasted forever.
The bottom line is that you owe tax on all purchased items used in Illinois.
They have not chased after mail order and internet sales because the
paperwork would be a nightmare.
The computer revolution is changing that.
Paul K. Dickman
...[Note on Amazon web pricing elided for brevity]...
Amazon has turned into mostly nothing but a front for a zillion
different e-tailers instead of actually being something themselves.
Owing to that, I've pretty much given them the brush-off in preference
to a direct online distributor link that I can tell who it is upfront.
I've bought quite a few tools from Amazon, and often they've had the lowest
price as well as free shipping. *But* you need to do your homework, as
sometimes you can find better deals elsewhere at a given moment. I also
dislike their use of "list" prices which are so ridiculously high that their
claimed discount is meaningless. Their prices really do go up and down too,
leave a few items in your shopping cart for awhile and note how the prices
change over the weeks and months.
Thanks to DGD for the comment. If you go to camelcamelcamel.com, you
plug in an Amazon URL and chart price movement among 3 classes of
Amazon included. Price alerts can also be dispatched to you if you
the site, AFAIK. Any report on the site would be worthwhile.
The correlations in price development among retailer groups
are interesting. As to price upswings, on the big A , part of
that may involve a calculation by Amazon that if they jump a
price notches higher a formulaic number of times,
a person who has placed it in their cart--along with other waiting
"wannabuys"--may be triggered to buy at some point on the apprehension
that the bill for a desired product is spiraling beyond reach.
Acsquisition and operating costs and
competition are other obvious drivers in this flux but what some may
say is shifty manipulation or gaming by Amazon is not apart from the
Hey, Sphero, for some reason your name is tolling the bell of
one John Woodgate, either correctly or no. If rightly, do you know
became of him?
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:50:25 -0800, "Edward Hennessey"
More Spehro than Sphero.. now that I've lost ~50lb... ;-)
True enough. John Woodgate (a Brit)... well, I suspect he got fed up
with all the US political BS on s.e.d. (not to mention rudeness and
low signal to noise ratio) and left some years ago. He's quite active
on one electronic simulation group that I subscribe to (posted within
the last 30 minutes- about 9:35 pm London time).
Here's John's website if you should wish to contact him- he is very
knowledgeable on matters of pro audio standards and such, and I think
Please have my apologies for the global nymshift but I'm sure you get
that conversion to the less-unique lookalike with some frequency.
Congratulations putting some of the ponderous pounds behind you.
You'll live longer; that's often the preference.
John and I are well-acquainted. If you get a chance to inform him
of my inquiry, he may find the fond sentiment tolerable.
My wonderment gives. If it is not intrusive or unwanted, could you
do me the favor of explaining the origin and meaning of your full
handle? Not since going to court with one Pratsersak Vathavornchotni
--a moniker than eventuated as intelligible--has a name captured
so much unknown in its composition.
Regards and "Dum spiro, spero",
Maybe, retailers sometimes play games with prices for such reasons. But it
could also be because they noticed a competitor cut their price and so
Amazon is going to beat them by five bucks, or because they bought a
trailer-load and got a deal, or the wholesaler raised the price....
not to mention that if you buy something and the price drops within a few
days they won't honor a credit like so many others do.
Post-Order Price Match Policy
With the exception of TVs, we do not offer post-order price matching when an
item's price drops after you buy it. Our prices regularly change, and the
price you paid when your order shipped was the lowest price we were able to
offer at the time. We consistently offer competitive prices on everything we
carry because we know low prices are very important to our customers.
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:22:43 -0800, "Edward Hennessey"
I bought a Bosch Multi-X from Lowes for $129 on Black Friday, with a free 12V
driver. Amazon wanted $179 for the Multi-X alone. I don't believe anyone
ever said that Amazon was *always* the cheapest. They did beat the crap out
of everyone else on my Unisaw, though.
Again, not surprising. Likely from a different e-tailer, through Amazon.
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