Tradesmen's mess!

[BigWallop]

Hee Hee !!! Or the type of tradesman that brags to his customers about how well and good he does all his jobs. I hate them. :-))

[Mary Fisher]

So it's not going to cost the contractor to move it.

Mary

[Lurch]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:58:00 +0100, "Mike Taylor" strung together this:

No. I don't usually provide quotations as most of my work is on reccomendation and an hourly rate is worked upon. There are a lot of things that are not written into my T's and C's. I remove rubbish where I can, if I don't it gets put in the bin. If the customer asks if I can get rid of it at the end of the job I will if I can, or I explain why it would cost them extra if I did. I don't refuse to do it, nor do I never do it. It gets worked out on a job by job basis.

[Dave Plowman]

Bet if the waste had some value, like copper or lead, it wouldn't have been left.

[Lurch]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:01:48 +0100, "Mary Fisher" strung together this:

But as you have already proved in several previous posts, you're not quite all there and enjoy a bit of tittle tattle based upon no real clear understandings of the threads you starting poking your nose into.

[Lurch]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:00:57 +0100, "Mary Fisher" strung together this:

Making good has nothing to do with removing rubbish. See my other reply to you above.

[Lurch]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:02:40 +0100, "Mary Fisher" strung together this:

Yes it is. If I were to remove all the rubbish from every job I ever did I would have to start hiring my own skips at home or taking regular trips to the tip and paying to dump trade waste. Either way I would have a van full of rubbish mostt of the day and would incur extra costs by either paying for the skip, or the trips to the tip. There's also the extra trips I'd have to make to drop all the rubbish at home when the van gets full during a busy day and also the time lost doing of the above. So it does cost the contractor to move it. Just go and knit something and keep your nose out.

[BigWallop]

If I take one rubbish bag to my local tip it costs me the time it takes to get there and back, the cost of the tip for trade waste which isn't very cheap even for one bag full, and the fuel and other travel costs where applicable. So I would like to ask again, as the OP just has. Would you prefer me to take away the rubbish and charge you for the pleasure of doing so. Considering that it could work out to an excess on your invoice of another £30 or £40. Or would you prefer to pay your rates and taxes and have the bin people lift one bag full from the kerb side.

[Ed Sirett]

1) Customers vary. 2) Jobs vary.

I have no difficulty is getting rid of mostly metal scrap. Ths is because of the occasional high value Cu cylinder I give the scrap man - so he takes it all (gas fires, old CI boilers etc.).

For small amounts of rubbish where the customer wants this to be done I can dispose of up to one or two sacks of stuff in rubble bags into the wheely-bin/week (This is probably against the rules but if you put the bin on the pavement [as you are meant to] the bin men are so pleased they don't look inside). Better is to get the cusomter to put it into their own bin.

For fencing work a well controlled bonfire is best.

Where there are many bags of rubbish (say tile shards) I have to square up to the customer and explain the situation:

1) They can put the bags in their car and it will only cost them the journey and their time. 2) I can empty my van of tools and go to the tip and pay £50+VAT ad then return and reload all my tools. This will cost £100. 3) I can call a rubbish man who will charge £60-£100 load.

With some smaller blocks of flats (no caretaker) you can put the bags in the palladins, provided you know not to over do it and find out which day the bins are emptied etc.

With larger blocks of flats the caretaker will often batch up the non-domestic waste and get a bulk price from the council this can work out quite cheap relative to other methods (eg. Rubbish man or Skip). It's definately best to get the caretaker working for you rather than against. Neven ever drop so much as a spec of dust in the common passage ways of large well managed flats.

[Mary Fisher]

You obviously enjoy reading what you call tittle tattle.

Says everything, really.

[Mary Fisher]

keep your nose out.

You don't do yourself any favours exposing your attitude to potential customers.

[Mary Fisher]

Or would you

It's got down to one bag now. There's no consistency in this thread.

[Dave Liquorice]

Wouldn't work round here. The bin men will now only take the official blue bin bags, anything else gets left. Of course you could pay the

88p charge for a blue bag to put your waste in so it would be taken away...

[Mary Fisher]

[Mary Fisher]

This question was about "6 bags full of plasterboard scraps, surplus plaster and other rubble"

Our bin men wouldn't take it. they don't look inside but the machinery won't lift a bin which weighs more than a certain amount.

No good for plaster waste.

You ssume that they have a car and the time when the tip is open.

If you have to pay that then it would be recognised as trade waste and the customer would be charged at the same rate.

I've no experience of that.

I don't know of any council flats like that ...

As you began, there are different jobs and different customers - and different contractors.

The scarcity of good contractors is the main reason why we do (almost) everything ourselves. When we can't, if a job needs specialised equipment, we shop around until we get a proper contract.

We don't mind paying for a good job well done. Sadly, with prevailing attitudes, that seems to be a rare thing.

Mary

[Mike Taylor]

I am beginning to see who the problem is now and looking at the thread probably so are many other people. Just to clarify a couple of things, it is perfectly acceptable as I do many times, usually due to instructions from the client or implied instruction to write "I have not included the following items" etc I have one estimate thayt I shall be writng tomorrow from a job I viewed this evening It involves excavation for a new inspection chamber and repairing some broken drains. The client has specifically asked me to leave the spoil at the side of the drive. One of the things on the estimate will state:- "All spoil and debris arising will be left in a tidy heap at the side of the drive" The client knows and I know What is the problem?

[Peter Crosland]

Same thing. Check out the Environment Agency website at

to see the details. Every week they prosecute people for not having them. Also remember that you could be prosecuted as well!

[BigWallop]

I'm talking about the price to me of removing and disposing of one bag full. If it was in the quantity that the OP suggested, it would cost you a damn sight more than that.

[Mike Taylor]

Any chance of saying what area of the country you operate in so the people on here can avoid you?

[Lurch]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:39:49 +0100, "Mike Taylor" strung together this:

Quite a few people on this group know where I am, it's not a secret. There's not many on here that are anywhere near me and TBH quite a few people on this group I'm quite glad I don't have as customers.