TOT: be kind to your children

Are you are old? If so ? and I hope you don?t mind me reminding you of the fact ? you are approaching the end of your err... how can I put it delicately? ? mortal pilgrimage. And even before that final end there might be the beginning of the end, which is when you finally give up your house and go to live in some safe and effortless billet. You might accept the glassy-smiled welcome of whichever of your children has drawn the short straw ? or can?t hide the existence of her spare bedroom from her siblings. Alternatively you could decide to donate all the money you have scrimped and saved in a lifetime of toil to an opulent granny farmer, at forty grand a year until either your assets, or you, have evaporated (?You?re looking ever so well Mam!? Thinks: ?But hurry up; we?re in negative equity you know; need a bit of help!?).

Whatever. In any case, that comfy home you have now has a place for everything and everything in its place. The problem is, it has too many things and too many places. That doesn?t bother you, but believe me it will bother your kids when they have to clear the house. No, they can?t just order a skip and shovel everything into it, because if they have any sort of feeling for their heritage they will want to rescue every little artefact, every momentous document, every medal, every certificate gained on life?s tortuous path. ?June 13th 1948: Arthur Smith swum one width of Greyfriars Baths unaided by floats.? What a hell of a task they will have, driven as they will be by the fear of missing a vital item of family history, not to mention the vague but alluring hope of finding a pile of tenners, which in my experience will likely be in a Hovis wrapper hidden and forgotten within a pile of 1970s Woman?s Owns.

So, what?s to be done? Well a good starting point is to get a sheaf of black bin liners. Then wait for a rainy day. When it comes put something cheerful on the CD player as an antidote to the essentially gloomy nature of the task at hand. ?My old man?s a dustman!? might be appropriate. Then get on with it. Rubbish is the first objective, but how to define ?rubbish?? Excruciating as it is, you must abandon the ?it might come in? philosophy that has been a mainstay of your life. Or at least moderate it to a realistic level. Realistically, are you likely to use sixty-three of the flimsy plastic containers that supermarket ready meals come in? Even as seed trays? Will you ever re-read those trashy paperbacks that you bought one at a time on Doncaster station when you were a commuter? Yes I know they cost 3/6d each but so what? They aren?t worth a light now (although a light is actually what they need). Now what about all those clothes? Yes, I know it will break your heart, but some of that gear needs to go to the Oxfam shop and a lot of it needs to go for recycling. Let?s face it, Teddy boy gear, loon pants, and fright wigs aren?t going to come back, and even if they do you?d look just ridiculous. And then there?s the home brewing gear. Yes you have the whole lot; you did it properly back in the 70s; none of that ?kit? nonsense! The Burco boiler, the mash tun, half a mile of plastic tube, the big bag of Milton, the crown capper and 300 caps. Realistically ? and that?s the buzz word here ? what are the chances of you brewing again? Be honest, the results were indifferent, the headaches were cataclysmic, and it was a lot of effort. ?But what if there?s a national emergency and we have to serve tea to the ARP wardens, or whatever they?re called nowadays? We?d need the Burco then wouldn?t we?? ?No dad, honestly, I don?t think so. They?d be on Red Bull.?

If you send less than ten black bags full to the dumpit you have failed. Try again. Wine and spirits can, in moderation, be helpful at this stage. Once the absolute, obvious junk is gone, look at what?s left. Yes, there are quite a few items that you know in your heart you?ll never use, but you can?t bear to just dump them. Suppose they were to go to a good home though? Waste being a sin and all that, the possibility of future use would make disposal much more palatable, wouldn?t it? So, there are people who refurbish tools, phones, and domestic electrical equipment, and send it all to Africa. Second-hand bookshops always welcome good quality stock. The Media Museum at Bradford will just love that old wireless. Hobby shops and sports shops often take in old items, especially magazines. Even if it only helps a small shopkeeper to keep going it?s better than just sending it to landfill. And there?s Freecycle of course, but watch out for the idiots who ask for a twelve month guarantee on your thirty-year-old lawnmower, and would like it delivered for free to somewhere at the other end of the borough.

How about buying a few cardboard folders from Staples and sorting out your documents? Those gas bills from the 1970s can safely be disposed of now. As can your pay slips from the 1960s, guarantees for electrical items that you can?t even remember owning, dog licences, wireless licences, half-filled books of Green Shield stamps, old diaries with no entries, and coupons promising 2d off your next purchase of Omo. But keep the vital things. School reports, postcards, personal letters (love or otherwise), and of course telegrams bringing momentous news ? none of these should ever be thrown away.

Documents with personal and financial details shouldn?t go in the bin. If you don?t have a shredder, a small garden bonfire might be the answer.

Empathetic readers might detect a note of anguish in this piece. Yes, I?ve just gone through this, not as the old person but as the son (who is also an old person, and is feeling it at the moment). Father had a stroke three years ago and came to live with me temporarily. He?s still here. Until a few months ago he was driving, so could go ?home? and mow the lawn, but then his eyesight deteriorated, making the use of the mower and more alarmingly the car rather problematic, so after an unfortunate incident at the Sprotbrough crossroads the decision was made to sell the house.

I went with my sister to have a look. The once immaculate garden was now a rampant jungle. We had a bit of a look round inside the house, poked about in a few cupboards, then stood in the cold unfriendly kitchen, state of the art in 1965, the room gloomy from the towering foliage outside. Was this really where we grew up? And the task ahead seemed enormous.

We were both busy with other things, so visits to the house were infrequent, and were made more so because we found every excuse not to go. It was a desolate business, breaking up the home where we had spent our childhood. The house, once filled with all the jollity and endless mini-drama of our happy family life, stood cold, damp, and empty. To commence the dissection of this corpse felt like a violation of the family.

But we did commence. We started with the obvious things. The paintings on the wall were all by my long-dead mother, so obviously they had to be saved. No doubt about that. Can?t destroy any of mum?s art! But then when we had a pile of thirty large framed oil paintings filling the car we started to have doubts. Then we found over a hundred paintings on boards, mercifully without frames. The storage implications begun to hit us, and we realised that the pictures would have to be sorted and some would have to be thrown away. So suddenly we?re art critics! This was the tip of the iceberg. The conflict between the sentimental value of various objects and the practicalities of their storage would soon be massive. I?m sure that a lot of the paintings actually meant nothing to Mum or Dad, and had they been thinned out by them it would have saved us a lot of time and angst. I couldn?t help thinking that if the old darling had painted over her failures like old masters did it would have saved a lot of space and hardboard.

We got into a routine. We would spend hours sifting though rubbishy books, magazines, clothes, and tools. Just as we were losing patience and were about to hurl the lot, unexamined, into a skip, we?d find a priceless object. That forced us carry on, grumbling, with the grim task. On one occasion I had a pile of useless, perished waterproofs in my hands, but as I was about to sling them into the bin en masse something made me separate them. I found a brown envelope with two large photographs; portraits of my dad?s parents when they married in 1917. These pictures had been lost thirty years ago, and were an irreplaceable part of our family?s history. In Dad?s fishing room, amongst the vast and incomprehensible detritus of an eighty-year fishing career I found a scruffy brown envelope bearing the legend ?Morning Telegraph ABC Railway Guide 1957?. Inside were seventy photographs: from the urchin me sitting on my trolley, the pictures went right back through my early childhood and well beyond. In the bookcase, between volumes of instantly forgettable pulp fiction, I chanced upon a leather folder which contained a considerable amount of fascinating Second World War memorabilia.

To date we?ve found, amongst many other things, a 17th century Scottish rapier, the Italian coin which father set in the solidifying magma of Vesuvius in 1944 when the British were advancing through Italy and the volcano chose that moment to join in the fun and destroy four villages, a sheaf of 1941 Free Passes to anywhere in London, curiously undated but apparently signed by the CO, three 1797 cartwheel pennies, a touching letter from my mother?s schoolteacher, the invoice for my wedding reception (£18.05; my goodness we pushed the boat out), my mother?s school art book (exquisite floral watercolours when she was 14), a picture of my sister in hospital aged two, being visited by the Mayor of Doncaster and Father Christmas himself, no end of leaflets dropped by the Germans, advising Tommy to surrender, and a new-condition British Rail waiter?s uniform. Then there were my ?O? level certificates, which have lain deservedly buried and forgotten under other worthless items since 1965. I saw for the first time in half a century my school reports ? ?A pleasant lad but no ability?, ?Must cultivate a more serious approach to The Game of Football,? and mused that they said more about the limited horisons of PE teachers than they did about me.

On the way home from each trip our cars handled like canal barges. Then, at home, we faced the problem of where to put the stuff. The tools I could add to mine, but do I really need 27 cold chisels, or six surveyors? tapes marked in feet and inches on one side and rods poles and perches on the other? Bizarrely, I started going through my own stuff, taking bags and bags to the Dumpit, in order to make room for my parents? stuff. I brought so much good timber away from Dad?s backyard that I?m thinking about using some of it to build a shed to put the rest in.

By about 1960 the faded yellow box on the mantelpiece had become full of things ?that might come in?. Things had been going into the box since

1948, and now there was something like a thousand items in there. Silver rings made from plastic, a free gift from Bunty magazine in 1965. Springs, washers, badges, tokens, minute screws, buttons, pins, nuts, bolts, key rings, hairsprings. Rings from pigeons? legs. A thing for pegging rugs. A single runner from a fishing rod. The insides of a bicycle bell. A set of feeler guages. Two Green Shield stamps, face value 0.033 New Pence. All the paper clips from sixty years of letters. Six cup hooks, all different. Valves from bike tyres. Lamp holders for dolls? houses. Bulbs for radio dials. A bakelite knob, function unknown. A Prefect?s badge. A crocodile clip. A Markham Main Colliery tally token. A Bell?s fruit machine token. A wingnut. A bicycle rear reflector. An hour hand. A minute hand. A cat bell. A rubber grommet. A St John?s Ambulance Brigade uniform button. A small coil spring. A bracket. Many, many keys. A bootlace. A lead-headed wall nail. For each one of those things, someone had devoted a moment to thinking, ?Hmm, what shall I do with this? Can?t throw it away; it might come in. I?ll put it in the yellow box.? Now I had to trawl the box and its three sucessors, checking for things that were of historic interest (I found plenty), or things that really ?might come in? (which of course they never will).

Then there were the workshop items. Countless nuts and bolts, damaged spanners, halves of hinges (I kid you not), bags of washers rusted into one lump, bent nails, screws with damaged slots, and then, hiding at the bottom of the washing up bowl in which some of these things have been stored ? a pair of good quality pliers, unused and in good condition! A pair of new brass rising butt hinges, wrapped in greaseproof paper! A set of tiny spanners, chrome, perfect condition! A very large screwdriver, apparently unused. Then I discovered five garden forks, and some spanners so gigantic I wonder if father was once employed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel. And four lavatory chains (with rubber handles). And some tools so ancient I think they must pre-date father. And 300 yards of rope. And a set of jump leads that would start a Centurion tank.

We sat in our dining room staring disconsolately at the boxes of things. I muttered, ?Judging from the number of bars of soap he?s got he must be planning to live a long time!? From the next room the allegedly stone-deaf father shouted, ?It?s cheaper in bulk!?

Please think about your children. Next time you go shopping, get those black bin bags.

Bill

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Bill Wright
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your life.

That is the mainstay of this group. Without that philosophy you will be doomed to drive around DIY sheds at 15:56 on a Sunday in sodden overalls trying to find a washer, one of which you had kept for 35 years until you read some damn fool book on de cluttering your life.

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Peter Parry

En el artículo , Bill Wright escribió:

A keeper. Thanks, Bill.

Reply to
Mike Tomlinson

Anyone would think your father was a Yorkshireman ;-)

Owain

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Owain

This is diy. Fuck off with your shit.

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Mr Pounder

I fully sympathise Bill. I am, as you probably recall, just a couple of years younger than you and it caught me rather earlier. My father died in 1994 and my mother in 1997 so the house that had been our family home since 1963 plus the garage and shed, not to mention the loft, all had to be cleared. Unfortunately I'm the sentimentalist in our family so my wife and sister, both named Liz which caused a few problems, just dived in and filled the skip and shoved me off into the garden to do harmless things. The rubbish was bagged up and tied and I was despatched to the tip. Clothes went to charity again by my hand, most of the furniture went to a disposal company (Patnick rings a bell) and much of the shed contents including a Myford ML7 lathe went to colleagues who happily collected.

It was hard work and harrowing but it got done and we just had to sell the house - and who did we sell it to? A union man who is now the local MP and who as far as I know still lives there. Maybe I got my own back somewhere but I'm not sure against whom.

Oh, and by the way, black bags are getting thinner and thinner so lash out and but BIG rubble sacks instead.

PS I've still got many of my father's heavy tools in the same Addis box I moved them in 15 years ago almost to the day!

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Woody

My initial reaction was 'how rude' but then I realised that I had started to read the OP's dirge, only to discover there were 11 more paragraphs of a similar tedious length. I don't know what half of them said, but with due respect to the OP, and I am of the age he was addressing, my sympathies go with Mr P, and I will agree with him for once.

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robgraham

To be fair, when Bill posts anything with TOT in the subject line, you have been warned so you don't have to read it.

Tim

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Tim+

BTDTGTTS. Deeply agree with, and feel for, you.

Fortunately we didn't have to clear the family home (since 1953) in one fell swoop, we moved Dad first to be nearer one of my sisters.

But a 1930's 3 bed semi with 15 x 10' shed, large attached garage and loft doesn't half hold a lot. I think I made well over half a dozen journeys to the HWRC with the car (Discovery) seats down packed to the roof and passenger side with what in all honesty was rubbish. Even so there was still a lot of "stuff" in his new home that we had to clear a couple of years ago.

I have two large trunks full of photos, papers etc that need to be sorted through. The photos are meaningless to us, unless my late father is in one, but as he was the one taking the photos... The papers are very variable in interest but like you there is the odd gem buried in there.

I'm certainly going to *try* and reduce the amount of "clutter" I have, so my kids don't have quite such a monumental and painful task to perform. There will be some things I won't be able to throw out even though I know to anybody else they *are* absolute rubbish. Like the little plastic model of a passenger liner I used to play with in the bath from before I can remember... Maybe I'll put it in a (small) box with other such items and a few notes explaining what they are.

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Dave Liquorice

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Its a bit late to start your autobiography.

Reply to
dennis

That's the perfect thing to do.

Bill

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Bill Wright

How extraordinary! A chap knocked on the door the other day wanting to get rid of some pig slurry by spreading it on my cricket ground. I said exactly the same thing to him as you said to me! Remarkable!

Bill

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Bill Wright

My Dad is. And he lives in a house full of antique china. Thousands of pieces of the s**te.

Reply to
ARW

It was rude, even if justified.

How did you know I've set it to music? But since I used an up-tempo be-bop tune it still isn't a dirge. Could it be that you are using words without being aware of their precise meaning?

only to discover there were 11 more

I try to use paragraphs in a way that helps the reader. The length per se of my paragraphs isn't tedious. That's a nonsensical concept. In any case, they are actually quite short, and as they are packed with sparkling wit and wisdom they could hardly be considered tedious, whatever their length.

I don't know what half of

So you are condemning my contribution without reading it! That's called prejudice. Some would call it blind prejudice. A rude person might call it pig ignorance. I would just call it pearls before swine!

Bill

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Bill Wright

Be a boring world if we all liked the same things !

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Andy Cap

En el artículo , Tim+ escribió:

To be fair, anything Bill posts is usually worth reading.

Reply to
Mike Tomlinson

Bin there dun most all of that except in this case no less then 6 of 6 yard skips of junk and clobber;!...

A local leccy firm had to rewire the building such was the bodgery that had gone, on also deteriorating rubber cables. They cleared out the loft and said that it seemed every time they almost cleared it more junk turned up. They had a notion that have came back at night took it from the skip and put it back;!....

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tony sayer

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:34:42 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: Duplex printed as a booklet, bound with a staple and read out by SWMBO at the family gathering now in progress.

I can't begin to tell you the parallels in our family experience, save to say it took a new and dispassionate member of our family in the person of my son-in-law to get Susan's late parents house in a state where it could be let out and pay its way.

A family of Lithuanian Gipsy scrap metal dealers were also instrumental in clearing the cellar of the metric tonne or so of electrical switchgear etc from the 50s 60s and 70s; my late FIL was an electrician. You do need to watch these people, I knew they were finished when one of them commenced ripping out the old lead waste pipe from the working Belfast sink.

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Graham.

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Oh, *that*'s a hard one! Some of it might be worth summat! I was gonna say "hoy it all in the skip: what fun!".

But how bad would that be, if you threw in something that was worth a few hundred (there are other nutters around besides your Dad) (I mean: there are people who pay good money to collect this old s**te.)

You'll need to get that programme in (Cash in the attic?) to make a special programme about "Adam's China problem". Then *they* can sort through it all for you.

Personally, I'm bloody well hanging on to all my s**te. I'll pay for a large skip via my Will. (When I get round to making a Will, that is.)

J.

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Another John

I know roughly what it is worth. It's 80% £30-£50 per piece. But a few pieces are worth over a grand with a hundred or so of the other pieces worth a few hundred quid or so. The rest is tat. And there are over 2000 pieces of the stuff. It all looks the same to me.

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ARW

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