I agree violently - if your pension arrangements don't need marriage.
Sadly a lot of us are in schemes which don't even have discretion to pay pensions to an unmarried survivor of a couple, even if they have a very long history of financial interdependence. And the heterophobic restriction of civil partnerships to same sex couples didn't help.
You're right - for older kids, it doesn't apply. But for any kids born since 2003, it does. And, given the context...
I find this idea of buying a ring then offering it when asking somewhat odd. When I got engaged, many decades ago, we went out to choose a ring after she said yes. It meant that she got a design she liked and that the ring was the right size.
Colin Bignell
You are of course right. And as is often the case, one of the better sources for law are the Government's site as, even these days, many civil servants try to cover all the angles on basic stuff (where there's no need to be economical with the truth).
"An unmarried father can only get legal responsibility for his child in
1 of 3 ways:a.. jointly registering the birth of the child with the mother (from 1 December 2003) b.. getting a parental responsibility agreement with the mother c.. getting a parental responsibility order from a court"
I can sort of see the point in that if no opinion or ring size is known. I like the look of princess cut diamonds so that was an easy one.
Happily the schemes I am in will pay my partner as a named benificery should I pop off be fore she does.
I guess the anti-heterophobic argument is that diffent sex couples can get married... Presumablly there are some differences between "marriage" and "civil partnership" other than anything based on sex or belief system. If there isn't why bother with civil partnerships? Everyone can get "married".
Just clarifying the orginal sweeping statement that simply being named on the childs birth certificate is enough for a father to have parental rights.
the point is still relevant since any unmarried mother can register a birth without giving the name of the father. See eg
My wife bought bought the ring and gave it to me to give to her :-)
We have always been financially independent. However, had it been important, most of my pension comes from a small, self managed pension scheme, which could have been set up with both of us as beneficiaries.
Colin Bignell
Had it been left to me, I would probably have gone for a brilliant cut solitaire, but would have looked for an unusual design of ring. My fiancée chose a seven stone cluster, six oval cut like petals around a central brilliant cut, on a very simple gold ring.
With my current partner, I can buy jewellery, perfume or clothes and know exactly what she will like, but that has taken 40 years of practice. Shoes and handbags I have yet to fathom.
Colin Bignell
And will she be opening your Christmas presents for you?;)
She has to say yes first!
Ta.
Nice idea.
In message , ARW writes
A mere formality I'm sure. :-)
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Precisely what we did. It's a nice ring.
We also bought his and hers wedding rings. I don't like rings, so I've no idea what happened to mine. I wore it for a while, though.
Let's just say all the female office staff at work went into "girly mode" when I told them. They think it will work.
I then had to listen to the married/divorced ones tell me about when "he" proposed - the best proposal IMHO was in the middle of an argument and she said to him "You do not care about me" and he then burst into tears pulled out the engagement ring and said "But I have bought you this" knelt down and asked her if she would marry him. They are still together and have 2 kids.
One of the proposals was totally indecent and it's not often I am shocked. They are divorced (that is NOT a surprise).
Her words - word for word
"He had just spunked all over my t*ts and then asked "are we going to get married or what?"
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