Sat Nav

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Indeed - 'Which' may only be used by the CA, IIRC.

[PJ]

I never realised that the "Which ....." series of magazines were anything to do with the Consumers Association magazine. The Which Motorcaravan and Which Caravan magazines certainly are not.

[Huge]

Didn't exist when I was gallivanting round Yoorp. These days I can do everything I need to down a broadband (which also didn't exist in those days) connection, so I don't need to sit in a shitty Novotel in Aulnay-sous-Bois watching Dallas dubbed into French and wishing I was at home.

[Andy Hall]

I can do many things in this way, but not the essential face to face meetings

That is only one marginal step up from Formule 1. Equally, it doesn't matter if it's that or a Sofitel, the desire to be at home is still there.

[Stuart Noble]

Look into my eyes, look into my eyes What is it with salesmen that the personal visit is still so vital?

[Ed]

The reason for my multiple post to different groups is that this is the first one it has come up on on my computer, Obviously you in your wisdom could advise me why this should be Kind regards E

[Andy Hall]

I wouldn't know. I'm not a salesman.

[Ed]

Stuart The reason for my multiple post to different groups is that this is the first one it has come up on on my computer,I am not trying to anoy anyone and am sorry if I have Obviously you in your wisdom could advise me why this should be Kind regards E

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[Brian Sharrock]

I agree with Dave; not many people will have experience of all devices on the market and even magazine reviews will have personal preferences and/or prejudices.

I've recently bought a Navman F20 (actually a F40 which is a F20 plus the Traffic Module) and am very happy with it. The F40 replaces a two-year old Navman which was my first experience of driving with a SatNav. in general, having a SatNav device is like heaven. if it only kept pace of 'where am I?' it'd be worth it's weight in Gold. [The number of times I've been cross-country in the dark trying to establish my position off a three-inch map ... now it just _knows_] I've learnt to trust the device - BUT USE MY EYES- and follow the traffic signs immediately in front of me! Sometimes one encounters a modified junction where the device is saying 'Turn Right' but the traffic calmer have splashed down white paint and one can only (legally) turn LEFT ,,, no sweat ... just turn LEFT and the device will ponder a while then say 'At the roundabout , take the THIRD exit' .... One imagines the silent 'STUPID!'. The previous model did not have the 'Traffic Information Module' which is why I up-graded. The Traffic Information is a RDS coded radio signal broadcast nationally, in the UK utilising 'Classic FM's' frequencies. {the user doesn't need to know this as it's transparent in use] It's not spoken , just a stream of data including 'Event Number'; Event Occurrence Time', Event Type, Event location and Expected time of completion. Thus (say) " NNNN, HHMM, XXXX, LLLL, HHNN". will be _translated_ as "Event No. 1234; 10:33; Multi-vehicle collision; M25-J5 clock-wise;

02:45" by the GPS set and then according to the software, and your preferences , display an alternative route. I've belaboured this point as it's up to the manufacturer to translate the codes into meaningful information -Event Type and Locations then decide what to do with the information.

So far mine's worked well and has -to my knowledge- directed me off the M25 , through some delightful parts of Surrey, and back onto the M25. At my destination, they said' Oh! We weren't expecting you for hours ... haven't you heard? Sally-Traffic keeps saying the M25's chokka!"

I wouldn't be without mine, the rest is down to personal choice.

[Stuart Noble]

Anything that got you off the M25 last Friday would be worth its weight in gold

[Owain]

Because face-to-face you can get the client to take their quill pen and make their mark on a page from their book of magic money paper.

Owain

[Brian Sharrock]

Yep; that's basically why I bought it

My only 'complaint' is that the device doesn't take a huge overview! Fr'instance it'll guide me off a Motorway and attempt to get me back on with a minimum delay/detour. It doesn't take a strategic overview and say 'hmm, M25's chokka, You want to get to Carlisle ... sod this M25, M40 for a lark. let's cut across to the A34 and join the Southampton-Midlands route' .... but hey; I got change from £200 ... how could it be as smart as me?

[Mike]

Mike

[The Medway Handyman]

Because all other things being equal, people buy from people they like, If things are not equal they still buy from people they like.

[Andy Hall]

That's actually very true.

[Brian Sharrock]

Mike

But _do_ purchase the complimentary 'Road Traffic Module' which transmogrifies the basic F20 into the F40 (=F20 +RTM). When connected an extra icon appears on the F20's home menu.

The F20 is ,IMHO, good: the Road Traffic Module addition makes the F20 excellent.

BTW; Navmand 'do' a F30 (=F20 plus a Bluetooth connector so you can use your Bluetooth enabled 'phone). I note that the sheds produce Bluetooth enabled headsets that 'talk' to your ' much cheaper than the delta for the F20+ .... and one can use the headset without trawling the car about!

Strange that .... it must have seemed a good idea when they were setting up the marketing packages.

[Stuart Noble]

Only if you're a little old lady

[Ed]

Mike

Unfortunately you have to be amember, I am not a member, have no caravan, so no point in joining, Thanks for all the siugestions E

[Steven Campbell]

TomTom could have done that for you either by "avoid roadblock" for a set distance or "travel via" or "avoid part of route"

Steven.

[Steven Campbell]

If you post and it doesn't show, I would try a search on Google groups to see if it has actually made it. They made it fine over in alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains