Any DIYer's here done Part P course ? Is it worth it ?

[Andrew]

You can say that again. It's the nearest I've ever come to resigning my membership. Although I do often look at the hundred odd quid a year fees and wonder what I get for it.

Andrew

[Mike Harrison]

If you screw the Olson block to the wall does it become 'fixed' and then come under Part P?

[Huge]

under Part P?

If you screw the Olson block to the Ikea shelving units, will I get little baby Scandinavians?

[Owain]

under Part P?

baby Scandinavians?

If you screw the Olson block to the Ikea shelving units, at least the shelving units will get stiffer.

Owain

[Huge]

under Part P?

baby Scandinavians?

Actually, they're fine. One of them's supported an enormous 21" Sun monitor without problem.

Hey, Bevis, he said "stiffer"!

[Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)]

Johnny Twojags was the heavy that went round demanding money with menaces, making sure that everyone was part of his union, whether they liked it or not. I think he called it "collecting union dues" or somesuch.

[Mike Harrison]

So no change there then...

[:::Jerry::::]

,

steward

A bit like those employers / business organisations then, like electrical installers associations or Corgi (trying to keep on-topic...) for example?...

[Andy Dingley]

But at least the Guild Of Master Craftsmen publish some good books!

[baldelectrician]

Some associations are more thorough than others.

In England And Wales you can send a kitchen fitter on a 2 week course to be a 'compotent person' under the England and Wales Building regs.

When I went to become a certifier of construction (to make it possible for me to sign of my own building work in Scotland) i had to be assessed by SELECT (The Electrical Contractors Assoc Of Scotland)

The assesment was very thorough, I was asked for my PASSPORT as proof of ID, then my National Insurance Number. (they looked up the UK register of electricians to check if I had any qualifications and if they were up to date)

I had to do a few more courses to bring my regs upto date (did a regs course 5 and a half years ago- had to do another as I needed one every

5 years)

The chap looked at 3 of my jobs with a fine tooth comb and asked lots of electrical questions.

This is only to join the Electrical Contractors Assoc (of Scotland) - SELECT.

The building regs are different up here but the ECA (in England and Wales) has similar thorough membership criteria.

I also neede to prove insurances (public and employers liability) and show my trade certificates.

Some associations have less thorough membership criteria, so it is useful to check things first.

Some associations also have backup (if I go out of business they will get a member company to take over ant arranged works at the agreed price)

[Peter Parry]

You can be as competent as you like - it has nothing to do with Part P. Indeed the man who wrote the British Standard on electrical installations is now unable to legally install a telephone socket in his kitchen - however a work experience oik can do it for him as long as the company the oik works for has paid their fees.

[jim_in_sussex]

as a matter of interest...

the British Standard on electrical

Who is that?

is now unable to legally install a telephone socket in

not an ex-IEE employee by any chance??

[Peter Parry]

That is a British Standard.

Who is what?

I'm not aware he has been dismissed.