Any DIYer's here done Part P course ? Is it worth it ?

Oct 30, 2005 52 Replies

him!

He didn't do anything in the 'docks', AIUI he was a *SHIPS* steward [1], the problem is not so much Prescot but the fact that he doesn't have a real HMG position (being on the left of the Tor... sorry Labour Party) and thus he is thinking up solutions and then trying to find a problem to use them on...

Figures. But it was on ship, AFAIR.

Signs in B&Q are designed to give the impression that ALL gas work MUST be done by CORGI-registered installers.

Further signs say that B&Q staff are not allowed to give advice on gas work - which, I suppose, is a Good Thing.

What I do with the gas or electric installations in my premises are no business of anybody (including HMG) else, so long as I don't blow up the neighbours' houses. An Englishman's home....

Which is exactly what this "Government" is good at - making legislation which either cannot be enforced or has the opposite effect to what it is intended to do.

I have no objection to BS7671 being called up in the building regs - that bit makes sense. All the rest of the bollocks however is a complete farce.

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:36:47 +0000 someone who may be John Rumm wrote this:-

That has been the case in Scotland for a very long time and it is indeed sensible.

I think the problem down south was either that the sensible system in Scotland was gold plated, or the system was set up by administrators. The latter think that pieces of paper are useful. Anyone who has seen the CORGI scheme knows that pieces of paper are not useful.

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Yes, but there is a difference, it's one thing making 'bad law' were there *is* a problem to be solved [1], it's something quite different to make bad law were there is *no* problem to solve...

[1] which although not good, it is defensible

The ex ships sandwich server managed to go one step further with Part P - he created a bad law which made a very small problem worse - by their own calculations Part P will kill more than it will save.

Some may have noticed a cheap and sarcastic tone to my use of the word "docks" in the context of the dpm :-)

Ahh makes all the difference then. Thanks for that.

beg to differ. Yes it is jumped a up position for someone's pal.

A moderately intelligent person might realise that and do something about it - no? Now if he'd been promoted to work on the DOCKS...

... and the mistaken fact that the NICEIC is the authority on this is compunded by RoSPA who point to the NICEIC site for their references on electrical safety at

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they don't acknowledge that NICEIC is the only organisation. No mention at all of the IEE who define the wiring regs.

bureaucrats employed some how), banning the sale of electrical components for DIY and mandating regular safety checks on household electrics and anything else you can think of. Think of the lives it will save!

MBQ

Only 37? There are 48 in here. Although 12 of them are on the UPS. And only three 12 way Olson blocks.

They're all appropriately fused, so what's the problem?

Well, that sort of nonsense's been going for years.

Hear, hear.

Yes, and he definitely worked in the bar ;-)

wear and tear mainly. stuff on trailing flex is not as robust as stuff wired in on walls.

More likely he dosn't have the nous to knock down the proposals his civil servants and a favoured lobbyists put in front of him. The labour party is full of people who have never done anything but politics, committees and agendas and minutes and conferences and and... it's their entire way of life and their response to any of it not working is just more of the same control freakery.

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LOL, you should try reading some of the Bio's of Tory MP's before you start down that path...

You've just described near *any* politician.

On 31 Oct 2005 05:14:18 -0800 someone who may be "Andrew" wrote this:-

Though their regulations are fine, the IEE hasn't exactly covered itself with glory on this issue and I gather their members are not pleased.

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