United States Code 13
§ 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males
at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of
title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and
of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
(b) The classes of the militia are
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and
the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the
militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval
Pay particular attention to Section 2
311.(a) says the militia shall consist of 'able bodied males' between
the ages of 17 and 45, and 'females who are members of the National Guard'.
I read that as males not in that age group, or females not in the
National Guard, are not members of a militia.
That's what it says, whether or not one disagrees with it.
(2) refers to 'members of the militia', which is defined in 311 (a)
"Although the terms militia and minutemen are sometimes used
interchangeably today, in the 18th century there was a decided
difference between the two. _Militia were men in arms formed _to protect
their towns from foreign invasion and ravages of war. Minutemen were a
small hand-picked elite force which were required to be highly mobile
and able to assemble quickly. _Minutemen were selected from militia
muster rolls by their commanding officers_. Typically 25 years of age or
younger, they were chosen for their enthusiasm, reliability, and
physical strength. Usually about one quarter of the militia served as
Minutemen, performing additional duties as such. The Minutemen were the
first armed militia to arrive or await a battle.
Bring on more insults.
Since you wish to make claims regarding the 18th century....
I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a
few public officials."
George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788
"The militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves,
... all men capable of bearing arms;..."
"Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic", 1788 (either
Richard Henry Lee or Melancton Smith).
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that
we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall
have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other
terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American
... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the
federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever
remain, in the hands of the People."
Tench Coxe, 1788.
Oh..btw...the 45yr age restriction is unlawful, according to Federal
In practice..the age restriction is ignored. Keep in mind that in
1778...45 yrs of age was close to the average life expectancy, so that
was considered close to elderly.
Oh..something else you should read...
"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things
have been like if every police operative, when he went out at night to
make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? If
during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there in
their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door
and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had
nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush
of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever was at
hand? The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of
officers and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed
machine would have ground to a halt."
Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner and author of The Gulag
Archipelago, who spent 11 years in Soviet concentration camps.
Since you have difficulties with written word....perhaps pictures may
be of assistance to you...
That depends on whether you like your rides bumpy. d8-)
Don't get grumpy, Gunner. I just know what's coming, and it could be a
beaut. If it were me I'd list all the citations from US v Emerson, 5th
Circuit Court of Appeals, and expect responses in November or so. <g>
IvanOleg, the young guy who runs the website. Rather good
photographer, pro second amendment.
Russian immigre as I recall.
He of course does other stuff, chop it down to just the www and look
at his other work
on 9/12/2007 4:49 PM Michael A. Terrell said the following:
I have a few of them.
I also have a DD214. Sorry about your injury. I was fortunate to have
served between the Korean and Viet Nam wars.
I also have a certificate honoring my 38 years of municipal service,
which service required that I enforce the criminal and traffic laws of
New York State and carry a gun when on duty.
I also own 5 handguns and two rifles.
I also was once a member of the NRA.
I served during Vietnam era, but never saw combat. I had severe
health problems, but a very good background in electronics so they
drafted me, after telling me I couldn't enlist because of five separate
4F ratings. I was legally disabled when I was drafted, but I served. I
tested out of the three year electronics school for broadcast engineer
while I was in basic training, and skipped AIT. It was a few years ago
those problems got so bad that I can no longer work.
Only one person in seven in the US military ever sees combat. Some
people don't understand that. There is more to a fighting force than
the front line, and everything has to work properly, or those at the
front line all die.
Good for you. :) Were you an MP or SP wile in the military? A lot of
the better police officers got their training that way. I only met a
couple bad ones while in the US Army. I bet that they all remembered me
for a while. It's amazing what a quick talk with their watch commander
can do when they screw up. :) I worked 'Weathervision' at Ft. Rucker
and had several try to keep me from doing my duty. All the watch
commander had to hear was 'Weathervision' and the MP got yelled at, and
reminded that if our group didn't get their job done, the helicopter
school had to shut down.
I received a letter of commendation from my commanding General for my
work to resurrect a totally screwed up AFRTS TV station. I ignored that
everything was depot level work, and fixed everything in the station.
Then the station manager tried to have me court martailed for
'dereliction of duty' for the work I did. It was quickly dropped, and I
was promoted. :)
I went back into electronics after I left the service. At my last job
I was building telemetry equipment for a lot of US government agencies,
some that are still under NDA.
Not really. I was just responding to your jab. ;-)
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to
I so wish I had a ballot.
That said, it does not render my views and my ability to express them
It's that 'forest-from-the-trees' thing, Morris.
I peek over the fence and worry myself sick.
A lot of my peers were on loan to Iran to build their electrical
networks. They made a lot of friends. So many Iranians we'd love to
have as neighbours. What's with the war drums?
Won't you add impeachement to you arsenal of keyboard and ballot?
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