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This was a bit exceptional. I've done some like this, on odd occasions.
Christopher A. Young See me on the web http://www.chrisyoungsshop.com / . .
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:46 PM Subject: Re: OT - welfare mentality
On 10/8/2011 7:40 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

Yep.
In my younger days, I used to accept money, when it was offered, for helping stranded motorists with their cars. Then one winter, I was the stranded motorist: water pump failed out in the middle of nowhere in the hills of NW Pennsylvania, at about 2am on Dec. 26. Couldn't see any lights anywhere, so my wife and I spent the night in the car. When the sun came up, we were able to see a farmhouse a short distance away. So I walked up to the door and asked to use the phone.
That's all I asked for -- to use the phone.
Here's what we got:
They invited us in, and fixed a hot breakfast of bacon, eggs, pancakes, coffee for me, and cocoa for my wife. The man said there wouldn't be any nearby garages open the day after Christmas where I could get the car fixed. How about an auto parts store, I asked? I have the tools, I just need the part. He called around until he found a NAPA store about 10 miles away that was open, made sure they had what I needed, and drove me there. I had no credit cards, and not enough cash, and the store didn't want to take my out-of-state check; he told the manager that he'd guarantee my check. After we got back with the new water pump, he insisted on helping me change it out, at the side of the road, in freezing rain.
And they wouldn't take a penny.
Neither have I, ever since.
If anyone asks why, they hear that story. And I tell them to help the next person they see who needs it, and tell that person to pass it on. It'll come back around to me eventually. In fact, it already has, several times.
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:22:58 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I've never taken money for this sort of thing, and when offered it for help I've always refused and given some variation on the "pay it forward" spiel -- I couldn't imagine doing anything else.
I've never had an opportunity to help out as much as that farmer, although I've come close -- but I've gotten that much help myself (a spun trailer wheel bearing in Boise, on a Saturday evening, when I was barely 19 and driving alone, with a show just days away in the Midwest -- that would have been a nightmare had it not been for the nice guy who looked like Gunnar probably does now, with a shop to match).
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wrote:

Arf arf. In your rich fantasy life you can find jobs for meth heads! But in the real world you can't find a job for yourself.... for decades. The story could have been funnier though. How about next time you write that your intervention caused the meth heads to pay back a lifetime of deliquent taxes and mooched medical care.
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wrote:

Arf arf arf! $94,000 per year net! That's more than I made and I drive a new car and live in nice house on a beautiful street with great neighbors. You drive what and live where and have what for neighbors now? Isn't it a an ugly beater and a mobile on a shit lot in a shit town with crack heads for neighbors or did I imagine you writing those details? Whoyakidding? I've seen links here to your decades of unpaid taxes and judgements and liens. I'd be surprised if you have a bank account because your creditors would surely put a lock on it.

Do you seriously want me to look up the links that have been posted here dozens of times? I'll do that if you keep pretending that I'm wrong about your miserable financial history Mr. Moneybags. Have you been able to afford your own internet account yet or are you still mooching off your neighbor?

Is this the same great cull that's been a year off for about 5 years, or a different one? Your threats are hilarious and you never learn.
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wrote:

Your nose must be a mile long! Anyone can pull up the 1 year old images in Google Earth of your 326 Olive Taft California shithole address and see that there are houses all around you. Who defends the quality of their neighborhood by bragging about crack houses burning down? A $75 an hour usenet nutcase who can't even afford his own internet connection!

They filed a 3rd 10 year extension on one of your liens only 9 months ago and they filed a brand new lien only 4 months ago! It's in GLORIOUS VBG color right there on the link above you crazy person!!! You can't afford your own internet connection but you make $75 an hour. You can't pay your most recent taxes but you're catching up on ONLY! 8 years of back taxes. The county loves you but they keep filing liens on you. Google is 6 years out of date and the county is 22 years out of date. WTF????? You must be completely bonkers to think that anyone believes a word out of your flapping gums!

Yeah yeah yeah you keep saying you're going to kill everyone who challenges your demented reality. I bet you'll be offering all the soldiers in your imaginary army $75 an hour! Glorious indeed.
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wrote:

OK according to YOU the 30 years of screwing over those dumb enough to take your word is really only 8! And the county smacking liens on you year after year is just their incompetence! And the houses all around you only appear to exist because the incompetents at Google don't know when their own photos are taken! And you make $75 an hour but never have any money! Summary: You are the victim of a bizarre combination of incompetence and I should believe that over my lying eyes because you say so!
The only thing that lying your way out of being accused of being a liar can accomplish is convince people that you're an INCOMPETANT liar. Here's what I would do if I were you and I really was the victim of all that incompetence. I would take some pictures of the house and neighborhood to show how different they are from Google's erroneous ones and I'd show those. And I'd sue the county for habitually making me look like a reprobate and I'd force them to write a public apology. And I would show off munged images of my current credit cards and checks and $75 an hour billing to prove I was an upstanding businessman. And I'd show my internet bill to prove that I wasn't really dead broke and mooching off a neighbor. In short I'd do ALL the easy things that a dipshit lying crackpot COULDN'T do.

Prove me and the county and Google wrong any time you feel up to it you incompetent liar.
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Arf arf. More gumming and grinning! I'm shocked I tell you, shocked that you can't provide one shred of actual rebuttal.
When you asked for a cite did you notice how easy it was for me to back up what I'd written? That's how it works with the truth. It would be just as easy for you if not for the fact that you're such an incompetent liar.
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wrote:

Everybody knows that! You're just a windbag whose only satisfaction is pretending you're amazing in every crazy way that pops into your head. Such as causing meth heads to pass you in responsibility. You write all those thousands of empty threats because in your mind it's the best you can do given that you have no way of countering proof that you're a lifelong loser without so much as the prospect ever being able to afford your own internet connection. Somehow all that makes more sense to you than getting a job!
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wrote:

There should be term for what you do here. Windbagerisms? Gummershit?

Hah! We'll see if I'm still here to help you celebrate on the 15th which is the 30th anniversary of the first time (we know of) that somebody figured out how much your word is worth.
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wrote:

The clock is ticking all right, on you and your imaginary friends making good on your idiotic nonsense. I'm making it my New Years Resolution to come back here and give you a fresh dose of medicine. With my new ghost powers I'll be able to show pictures of you posting from atop your toilet bowl.
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Gunner Asch wrote:

Make sure it's one the new Cement/Asbestos models. You'll need it for some of these characters!
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You are so, so true. I've also found that, in my own life. I can't remember off hand which Bible writer quote "who lives by the sword, shall die by the sword", but that's also profound.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .
A VERY frequent saying of mine:
What goes around, comes around...eventually - GOOD AND BAD.
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On 4/3/2012 6:42 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

The proverb comes from the Gospel of Matthew, verse 26:52, which describes a disciple (identified in the Gospel of John as Peter) drawing a sword to defend against the arrest of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, but is rebuked by Jesus, who tells him to sheath the weapon:
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version)
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Makes me wonder. Maybe the Warsaw Ghetto people had it wrong, and the "put up thy sword" Jews had it right?
Many examples of Mormons being driven out by mobs, and not firing back.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .

The proverb comes from the Gospel of Matthew, verse 26:52, which describes a disciple (identified in the Gospel of John as Peter) drawing a sword to defend against the arrest of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, but is rebuked by Jesus, who tells him to sheath the weapon:
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version)
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On 4/3/2012 8:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: > Makes me wonder. Maybe the Warsaw Ghetto people had it wrong, and the "put > up thy sword" Jews had it right? > > Many examples of Mormons being driven out by mobs, and not firing back. > > Christopher A. Young > Learn more about Jesus > www.lds.org > . >
Yep. It's one of the things I've always admired in them.
Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. James 1:22 (NIV)
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Which them? Ghetto resistance, or the Mormon lack of resistance?
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .
On 4/3/2012 8:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: > Makes me wonder. Maybe the Warsaw Ghetto people had it wrong, and the "put > up thy sword" Jews had it right? > > Many examples of Mormons being driven out by mobs, and not firing back. > > Christopher A. Young > Learn more about Jesus > www.lds.org > . >
Yep. It's one of the things I've always admired in them.
Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. James 1:22 (NIV)
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On 4/3/2012 9:41 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: > Which them? Ghetto resistance, or the Mormon lack of resistance? > > Christopher A. Young > Learn more about Jesus > www.lds.org > .
Let me ask you, Christopher? What would Jesus do?
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Didn't answer the question.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . On 4/3/2012 9:41 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: > Which them? Ghetto resistance, or the Mormon lack of resistance? > > Christopher A. Young > Learn more about Jesus > www.lds.org > .

Let me ask you, Christopher? What would Jesus do?
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Except the Mountain Meadows Massacre when the Mormons did the killing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre
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Gunner Asch wrote:

If you look across the canyon on I80 as you drop down toward the valley, you can see the firing positions from when Young was going to take on the US. It would have been an interesting fight.
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