Need your advice on a good inside automotive tire patch

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On 12/7/2015 1:40 PM, Danny D. wrote:

I bought the extended warranty for the reason I gave that AWD Subaru requires all 4 tires be equal. The dealer also gave free lifetime rotation.
I'm going to trade it in a a couple of months and break free of the service/dealer as every time I take it in for an oil change and free rotation he looks for all kinds of things to do.
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Frank wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:41:28 -0500:

What does 'equal' mean?
All tires should be "equal" with respect to size, brand, & tread pattern. It's just plain ghetto to have different tires on the same axle even. You shouldn't even have appreciably different wear on them.
So, I don't know what you've been drinking that makes Subaru any different than any other vehicle.
Those Subaru Marketing teams have you snowed I think.
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:08:16 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D."

It's a lot more important on cars with all wheel drive and fancy stability/traction control.
They were NOT snowing him.
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clare wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:05:14 -0500:

I wouldn't "think" of driving any car without all four tires "matching" in tread pattern and brand and model.
I still don't see why a Subaru is any different than any other vehicle, AWD or otherwise.
What the heck does AWD have to do with it anyway? All decent cars have stability control (and have had them for a decade or more).
Mine, for example, is a dozen years old and it has DSC, and, all cars, by law, I think nowadays, have stability control.
So, what's different about a Subaru (except the marketing team wants you to "think" they're "special").
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 04:29:34 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D."

AWD has 3 differentials. Different diameter tires cause the differentials to "work" all the time. If they have limited slip or traction control, the different sized wheels turn at different speeds and confuse the heck out of everything.

Not yet - but next year. And ALL cars with dynamic stability control tell you you need to have all tires matching.
But what the heck - it's your car. Drive with 4 different sized tires and pay your repair bills.

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clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:22:27 -0500:

You seem to have everything wrong, but I don't know where you get your ideas from.
I was never talking about putting the wrong *size* on the car or even different sizes on the same axle, or even on different axles.
If you inferred that, I never said (nor implied it).
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 22:43:27 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D."

Different brand tires of the same size, or tires with differing wear amounts amount to the same thing. On AWD cars, and cars with dynamic traction control, you ALWAYS replace tires 4 at a time.
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On 12/8/2015 6:21 PM, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Historically I've been bad about rotating tires but have done OK with the last couple of cars. It does pay to have them wear evenly though and now that I have AWD I'll be more vigilant.
When the original tires go I'll probably get Nokian WRG3 again. I rally liked them on my last car.
My first car was a '53 Mercury. Only bought one used or re-cap tire at a time as needed.
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With directional tires you just switch front to back - not a full rotate (and I've never done/liked full rotation on radial tires (or even the old bias belted tires)
I've never replaced tires one at a time - and untill the Ranger I'd never installed used tires. The alloy rims I bought for it (torque thrust style Eagle Alloys) came with a decent set of Coopers that I drove for a year, and I got a set of Hak R2 SUVs with one season of use for a good price so I put them on for this winter. Should last me for another 4 or 5 winters.
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clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:21:55 -0500:

Again you seem to have everything wrong?
Who said *anything* about different brand tires of any size?
Are you just making this stuff up?
You're the *only* one talking about different brand tires on the same vehicle. Nobody else would even *think* of doing that, except as a ghetto maneuver.
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On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 04:09:33 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D."

I've seen all 3 many tomes - and even 2 tires with the same name and size can be different. There are, for instance, at least 2 totally different tires called Tiger PawTouring tires, available in the same size range - with totally different tread and totally different carcass - and different speed ratings.
Not a good idea to have one on one side and the other on the other side, or one on the front and one on the back of any AWD or dynamic traction control or whatever vehicle.
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snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Because you don't know the anatomy of Subaru system yet.

Most likely causing damage.

When differential gets busted.

One hint Subaru system does not have power torque. Ever driven xDrive? That is BMW system. Try it once and experience power torque. Jeeps too. Ever do off-roading? Some times ignorance is even dangerous.
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wrote:

By "power torque" you mean "torque steer" And you are right!!
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Danny D. wrote:

We have 2 Subarus in the family for years. Symmetrical AWD they are. There is Youtube explaning Subaru system, one of the best. Audi Quattro, BMW xDrive, Acura SH AWD... Subaru, Acura come out on top.
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:39:02 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D."

Take the tire off yourself. Take it to the shop for repair. Remount it yourself. Thatway you are not paying the "monkeys" to damage your wheels.
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snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

All my family cars have 2 sets of tires on OEM wheels.(summer and winter) I swap them out when season changes, rotate them as well at home.
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wrote:

What's that got to do with the price of chicken milk on thursdays??? We are talking about REPAIRING a tire.
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clare wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:33:36 -0500:

Specifically about: 1. Removing and replacing the tire on the rim ourself, and, 2. Patching a hole in the tire, and, 3. Perhaps dealing with balance issues thereafter.
Choosing the patch seems to be *easy* now that I know there is only one kind of patch to choose.
BTW, I called Midas (whom I hate), Goodyear, and Wheel Works. Midas and Goodyear only patch or plug but not both. Wheel Works does a patch/plug, and they do it for free!
No more calls for me. That's too easy to ignore.
I will let you know what happens (I accidentally left the key in the ignition when I needed to straighten the wheels to jack up the car so I'm charging my battery as we speak).
Sigh.
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clare wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:32:24 -0500:

This I thought was a joke, but, I called Wheel Works, and guess what! If I bring in the tire, they will patch it with the plug/patch, for free!
Yep. For free! Woo hoo.
It doesn't matter that Tire Rack sold me the tires and that I installed them myself.
Perfect.
1. I can remove the tire easily. 2. I bring it to Wheel Works 3. They patch it correctly, for free.
I asked them over and over again "are you sure it's free?", and they said yes. I told them they're crazy; but I like their kind of crazy.
I'll let you know what happens.
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On 12/07/2015 10:39 AM, Danny D. wrote:

I carry Dynaplug kits on my bikes with tubeless tires:
http://www.dynaplug.com/pro.html
I've also used the standard string type with good results. The politically correct thing to do is to immediately repair the tire or preferably, if your selling bike tires, buy a new one. I patched a almost brand new rear tire, and ran it close to 8000 miles before the tread was gone. The string plug did leak slowly towards the end but when the tire was removed the inside loop was well sealed and wasn't going to blow out.
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