Hurricane-proof House

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Let's say you're building a 1,500 square foot house plus garage on a sufficiently sized lot from scratch in New Orleans after the water has been drained. You want to build so that the house would suffer zero damage should it endure a hurricane of similar size as Katrina.
You would have to build to survive the wind, the flood water, the wind-caused waves in the water (In Katrina-NOLA, the wind had subsided before water came in; this may not be the case in the future), and the impacts of debris.
You need to anticipate looters and unwanted government interference.
The house would have independent utilities, communication, and supplies. And the house would need a secure means of transportation for escape if necessary.
How should this house be built and what should it have?
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Nehmo wrote:

For one, an address farther inland.
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vdubbs wrote:

Keeping in mind that the sperm whale population in northwest Nebraska is negligible.     j4
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Nehmo wrote:

Dr. Evil's lair with attached Big Boy escape rocket?
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This should be a good discussion.
My suggestions are 1. A moat made up of Weber grill burners. Anyone trys to get accross, you instantly BBQ there ass. 2. Rifle tower, lots of amunition. (5 bullets for each member of surrounding population) 3. two of each animal to restart population. (preferably opposite gender). 4. Tele-porter to escape. If you go with a tunnel, it would be flooded. If you go jet pack, the guy across in his castle will snipe you from his rifle tower. (Check e-bay for a cheap teleporter.) 5. Seperate ecosystem/ oxygen supply - As ecoli and other diseases break out, you don't want to be breathing this stuff.
I like the three little pigs idea. Make sure you don't talk to the first two.
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Tilt up concrete walls with rebar from slab foundation... foundation anchored with 24" diameter deep piles at each corner.
Flat metal storm roof under the mostly decorative pitched roof. The storm roof would be poured concrete at 10'.. actual ceiling in the house would be at 8' or 9'.
Glass would be tempered 1/2" glass. Steel shutters outside.
Doors would be heavy metal, tight sealing that swing out, not in.
Generator would be propane powered (because it stores well and doesnt cloggup the generator carb while sitting idle)...Id have two smaller gen sets..rather than one large one. one very small honda silent generator.
Sump in the middle of the slab, slope slab to drain 1/8" per ft. fit a small little giant sump pump in the sump, powered by the small generator.
Optionally: Put all this on stilts with fold down stairs.
What not to have. Bay windows facing the storm surge. or sliding doors if you are at ground level..for views and nice living have wide decks, enclosed with AC or open.. around the house those will be sacrificed in a storm. Dont build 20' below sea level. or lower than you are willing to have pilings to compensate.
Escape: keep an aluminum boat in the garage and a motorcycle with 150 mile range on a tank of gas.
Costs: You can make the secure core as small as want. Many people could have paddled out on 4" thick sheets of styrofoam available at home depot. Anyone could keep a sheet of that around.
Phil Scott

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Phil Scott wrote:

patio doors. It's not that hard.
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David wrote:

"It's not that hard."
A little play on words, David? <g>
Notan
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Phil Scott wrote:

In New Orleans, where being below sea level and inland from the Gulf of Mexico provides a lot of protection, this would be overkill, because the big danger was and is flooding from broken or overtopped levees, not direct storm surge. A building that can withstand high winds isn't the real challenge: it's the massive force of MOVING water that is the killer. The biggest problem with flooding (other than surviving it) is the major mold and mildew problem that will persist for months or years afterward if the materials are at all water absorbent.
And on the coast, directly exposed to the full force of combined storm surge and waves, it wouldn't be nearly enough, unless it really were just a small storm shelter within a larger building, and even then there are never guarantees. Storm surge combined with large waves can shatter even a heavy concrete foundation if it is undercut, and the undercut is why the pilings are there. So you would need a lot more pilings than just the four corners, unless it were a small (e.g. one room) shelter.
The "hurricane proof house" near Pensacola is an effort to design just such a home, but it is far from "hurricane proof". "Hurricane resistant" is a much better description. See http://www.domeofahome.com/news_detail.asp?ID ) for some discussion of how much repair the $800,000 "hurricane proof" house needed after being near the most destructive part of Ivan. The "before" images are at http://www.domeofahome.com/gallery/ and some design info at http://www.domeofahome.com/DomeHome_sun-sentinel.pdf
Keep in mind that the stairs and the concrete slab that were designed to break away become battering rams when they wash up against someone else's "hurricane proof" home.
- Bob
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Perhaps a change of goverment or country is what you really need then.
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are still around.
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Chris

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wrote:

Didn't one of them go to market?
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Yes, but he was looting, so it was ok.
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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:11:19 -0400

So let's do a FULL recap of this house. I am going to save this for future use and reference.
Let's fill in the blanks and develope this and have it stand the test of back-and-forth until we ALL agree on the resultant.
Let's also be realistic, but don't limit yourself. Let's be practical but without any sacrifice on anything for the sake of safety & security most importantly.
HURRICANE-HOUSE --------------------
FUTURE BUILDING SITE: N.O.
FOUNDATION SYSTEM: ?
FLOOR SYSTEM: ?
WALL SYSTEM: ?
ROOF SYSTEM: ?
DOORS & WINDOWS: ?
MOISTURE & THERMAL PROTECTION: ?
FORCE PROTECTION: ?
MECHANICAL SYSTEMS: ?
ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS: ?
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This is going to take a shitload of concrete.
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"New Wave" Dave In Houston




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But which one do you shoot?
One had roast beef and the other had nun........
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I'd drill the little fucker that went "WEE WEE WEE" all the way home...
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Thanks for that. Best laugh I've had all day.

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You mean you'd "pork" him?
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"New Wave" Dave In Houston




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....my sex life is none of yoink business...
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