In the case of the HA, their primary goal was to slow down,
not necessarily stop the cops. The large concrete blocks
in front of the concrete wall keep a backhoe at a significant
distance too. All in all, the design looks like a typical
US embassy or consulate.
Just went looking for it and couldn't find it, but, a couple weeks ago my
brother sent me a link for a chainsaw that cuts concrete.
It might not do much regarding Hoover, but I'd still like to have one in my
Yeah, my brother has one of those, we used it for score cutting my driveway,
and I have blades for cutting concrete/masonry for my saws.
You have to wear goggles and an aspirator, lots of smoke.
Cameras, man, cameras.
Cops, whether local guys on the beat, DEA agents, Secret Service, swat
teams, or anything, don't fear guns. They make sure they're always more
heavily armed than and outnumber the people they've been told to take out.
And they don't worry too much about heavily fortified buildings. As
your post states, if they find a door or wall that their battering rams
can't take down, they'll use a backhoe; if that doesn't work, a bulldozer.
What law enforcement fears; what can really put a stop to what they're
doing, is cameras. A single video of a cop doing something that doesn't
look right, sent to the media, will be more damaging to a cop than a
million guns, and a bigger impedement to their goals than a house built
like Fort Knox.
I saw video today of a scuffle between cops and evacuees. One of the
cops completely ignored his cohorts efforts to get a handle on the
situation, and instead approached the camera-man - yelling "TURN OFF THE
CAMERA! TURN OFF THE CAMERA NOW!"
As the cop was armed, and was approaching the cameraman with a threatening
tone, he deserved to be shot right in the face.
Wouldn't his wife and kids like that?
Why would a grown man (the cop) act that way?
I'd warn against shooting a cop surrounded by other cops (with guns) in
I'd say the camera guy should have kept rolling, braced himself, and
seen if he could get the coming assault by an officer caught on film.
He had something to fear.
Remember Rodney King? It wasn't a gun that brought the LAPD to its
knees. It was a camera. Cameras are better than any other thing at
capturing the truth. And when the truth is leaked about police
activity, it's often rough for the cops involved.
Witness Amadou Diallo.
When cops start fearing for their lives, then they may adjust their
I;m not against the *concept* of cops, but I believe they have been largely
perverted these days.
Tazing 13 yo gurls and and handicapped old ladies, etc. You know what I
Most are OK but the bad ones drag all of them down.
If they policed themselves a lot of this stuff would be history.
But they don't, so they all suffer.
Tasing 6 year olds is what they do now.
Didn't you see the news? It was right there in FLA if I remember. Miami.
I would add that the blue wall of silence doesn't help matters.
Otherwise good cops seem to unwaveringly stand by their bad colleagues
even when they know it's wrong.
But that's not all. District Attorneys who have learned to trust and
work with cops to jail criminals wind up being the ones who prosecute
those very same cops when people are brutalized. Talk about a system
open to corruption.
Thanks to Frank Serpico there is an internal affairs unit with most
large forces now, and they are theoretically supposed to police the
police. But if internal affairs were really enough, Amadou Diallo and
Rodney King wouldn't have fallen victim.
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