GE Hotpoint dryer (bearings? squeaking! groaning!)

I have a GE Hotpoint electric dryer, Model DLB2650 BALWH. I don't know how old it is. If there are any (old) repair guys out there, you can probably tell from the serial number (AL209207H) or this tag (123C7075 P013). If I had to hazard a guess, I would bet the 7075 means July '75.
It has been squeaking for a long time and slowly getting worse. (We're talking loud enough to hear all over the upstairs.) My wife pushed on the front and the it was quiet until she let go. So I tried pushing a little harder (maybe a lot harder). Now we have scraping and groaning, enough so I won't try to run it. My guess is bearings or whatever supports the drum as it spins. (I can reach in and lift the drum a bit, which was a sure sign that a front-load washer needed a bearing job at my old laudromat.) If it is bearings, is there a kit or anything that I can use to replace them? Or any other suggestions on something else that will cause this and how to fix it. Can't really afford a new one and I won't get away with buying a used dryer.
Thanks much. Bill
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There is very little to the workings of an electric dryer. If you remove the front and/or top panel, the drum just lifts out. You'll then see it is supported by two (usually) drum support rollers which are just small wheels running on a sleeve bearings. There is generally no support at the front (door side) of the drum.
Remove the drum and rollers and clean and grease the bearings (likely what is causing the squeaking) and you're back in business.
If you are getting a thump, thump noise, that is caused by a flat spot on the rollers (wheels) generally caused by moving the drier in a truck without proper preparation or by the bearing seizing so the roller won't turn (wears a flat spot where the drum is sitting on the roller). The only remedy for that is new rollers.
The scraping and groaning may be caused by the drum rubbing somewhere it isn't supposed to touch (you may have bent something.
This is a simple job and you have nothing to lose at this point!
John

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Have a look here and Mouse Over the "drum bearing support" (says squeaks when worn):
http://www.repairclinic.com/0100_20.asp
http://www.repairclinic.com/0080.asp
It looks as if this particular dryer uses drum support glides rather than wheels and a centre rear bearing. The squeak is likely therefore the centre drum bearing or bearing support.
Make sure you note how the drive belt is installed before removing it (goes completely around the drum) so you can reinstall it correctly.
John

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Hi,

AL######## was produced... Jan 82 and Jan 94

Rear drum bearing, idler pulley, front glides are common noise makers.

Some take apart helps,
http://www.applianceaid.com/slideged.html http://www.applianceaid.com/take-apart.html Common noises makers... http://www.applianceaid.com/ge-dryers.html#camco
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R 3&N&32 Front drum supports/glides, with hardware
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R 3&Nx4658 Rear drum bearing kit
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R 3&N'5154 Idler pulley wheel with spacer and retainer clip
Always clean the dryer inside and venting when you have the dryer out and apart....might as well check the drum belt for any cracks, if there is any change it as well.
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R 3&N454 The most common GE/Hotpoint dryer belt, length 87", width 1/4", characteristics, 4 ridges, flat
jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com /
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This was the gist of my Jan 11 post:
I have a GE Hotpoint electric dryer, Model DLB2650BALWH. It has been squeaking for a long time and slowly getting worse. (We're talking loud enough to hear all over the upstairs.) <snip> Now we have scraping and groaning, <snip>
Thanks, John & Jeff. Between your suggestions and the info repairclinic.com and pcappliancerepair.com (the latter being about 1/3 less expensive), I was able to get the right parts and get everyting back together. But ...
There was one part that came out that isn't on the exploded diagrams on GE's site. It is about 3" in diameter, with a .75 to 1" hole in the center. There are 6 small holes matching the holes in the rear of the drum. I put it between the back end of the drum and the the cup shaped part that holds the the shaft that slips into the rear bearing. The size and positioning looked right and the rear of the drum looked as if it could use the reinforcement this piece would provide.
The other wierd thing is that the drum is not perpendicular to the axis of the shaft: the drum "leans" slightly downwards at about 225 degrees (7:30 on a clockface.) I also noticed that the rear of the drum is not parallel to the pan the holds the heater filament or the front of the dryer. If I lift the drum up and to the right, to where it looks parallel to both the heater pan and dryer front, the drum is about .5" away from the left glide strip (looking at the front of the dryer.) The outer panels look square go back together without much pushing. The glides are in the same spot from which we removed the old ones. I can see that the front of the drum presses harder on the felt on the right front than on the left side.
The dryer ran ok (empty) this afternoon; fairly quiet: with what sounded like some rubbing on the felt between the front and the drum. I noticed that with the front on the dryer, it was fairly difficult to turn the crum by hand. (That seems odd, implies the motor has to overcome a fair amount of friction there.) When I put a (small) load of clothes in to dry, there began a rythmic banging that sounded like the drum hitting somewhere. Lifted the top and found the drum (or more correctly the galvanized pan attached to the back of the drum) bangs once per revolution against the galvanized pan holding the heating coil. Not real loud but enough so you could hear it upstairs. My guess is either: (1) that it is related to the drum not being perpendicular to the shaft, which means the back right corner of the drum gets angled further back, or (2) that extra piece (see above) moves the galvanized pan on the back of the drum back an extra 1/8 inch, which is enough to bring it into contact with the heater pan.
It also seems to me that the new shaft doesn't come out of the back support quite as far as the old one. (Just a couple of real thin washers shorter.) (I went for the whole kit instead of just replacing the bearing; the old shaft was pretty worn as was the support that holds the bearing. The old plastic bearing was nowhere to be seen, not even bits and pieces, and the old support has a 1/16" groove worn into it.)
I'm a bit stumped, as the drum is only supported by the rear shaft/bearing and the two glide strips -- none of which appears adjustable in any way.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. And thanks in advance.
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Hi,

Is it on any of these....
http://www.partselect.com/Schematics/GE/00009673i03.gif
http://www.applianceaid.com/images/ldrger-rear-bearing.jpg

Front glides should be adjustable up or down a bit on the slots for the front glides supports.....rear bearing has no adjustement.
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Nope, not on the GE diagram. (I printed that out before I started putting it back together and referenced all of the appropriate parts against GE's parts order list. the mystery part I referred to seems to go between 504 & 508. Part 508 has a peculiar shape and I could barely see an outline of that shape on the surface of the surface of the mystery part.
There were no slots for the glides, just "holes."
Thanks Bill

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Howdy,
Those glides -should- have oval holes for some minor adjustements on the front.... http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R 3&N&32

Cannot see/visualize what that may be :(
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I see what you mean, but when I hold the drum to where I feel it is perpendicular to the rear shaft, the front of the drum is nearly 1/2" up from the left glide. (Up on an 8 o'clock/2 o'clock axis.)

It is shaped like a doughnut: 3" OD and the doughnut hole is around 1" in diameter. Take a look at this link: http://www.repairclinic.com/0081.asp?RccPartIDx4658 (the piece on the lower left, which holds the shaft onto the drum.) The mystery piece has the same screw holes as the piece in the picture. (The holes in the piece in the picture are threaded, while those in the mystery piece are not threaded and slightly larger.) The mystery piece has three additional holes (not threaded) which match the "corners" of the piece in the picture. See where the circumfrance of the piece in the picture is broken by the three notches? The additional three holes in the mystery piece are right in the corners of those three notches. My dryer drum also has six holes and there were four of the round-headed screws you see in the picture on repairclinic.com.

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Hi,

Might be able to adjust the levelling legs incase the cabinet is twisted a bit. We often have to adjust the front of the cabinet slightly higher than the back for beter levelling.

Oldest pic that I had....
http://www.applianceaid.com/pictools/dryerGEbearing2.JPG
#25 did say there was 2 of them...one regular and one oversized, the OS is NLA now.
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Well, this picture (as well as all others I have found) clearly does not show anything between the drum and #5. I believe I will take the drum out again and see what happens if I put it all back without the mystery part. Sure looks like it fits there but for all I know, the last guy had it made and put it there for some weird reason. Taking it out will pull #5 back about 3/32" which may eliminate the scraping against the heating coil pan. I'll let you know.
Thanks again, Bill
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