Doorbells - Help Please

It's another datum but the same information is available in other forms (else the problem wouldn't exist). It's also possible that mechanism has degraded/failed, "original" parts were "special" (and replacements are missing some crucial characteristic), etc.

Doorbells *tend* to be designed so you can retrofit them with minimal impact. People would be discouraged if they had to change out a transformer: Where is *yours* located? Is it affixed to the *side* of a Jbox? Or, to the top cover of one? Is the Jbox on a wall -- or hanging from the ceiling? Is it in a dimly lit basement? Will you need to hire an electrician to open the box and remove the wire nut connections to install the new XFMR? Will the 18AWG solid bell wire *snap* when you try to remove it from the screw terminals? Will there be enough of a service loop for you to strip the remaining wire and reattach it? Will you WONDER if it matters whether the red wire goes on the "first" terminal or the "second"?

"Gee, why don't we buy this OTHER doorbell, instead...?"

Reply to
Don Y
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Mine is mounted directly to the service entrance box/load center.. Some have 3 terminals - You can get 8, 16, or 24 volts depending how you wire to it.

Reply to
clare

Kate - Is this a new door chime installation, or is an old one that just started having problems. Unless you let us know, we can't make rational suggestions on what to try!!!!!!!!

Reply to
hrhofmann

In the house I grew up in, that's how ours was. But, the loadcenter was in the basement so that was a realistic possibility.

Here, it was attached to the top of a 4" round Jbox located in a wall. In previous house, it was attached to the *side* of a 4" round Jbox located in (unfinished) ceiling.

In every case, getting to the primary is not for those "unskilled"; it's not like just unplugging a wall wart!

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Don Y

Who is Kate?

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Vic Smith

Speaking of doorbells, I was just watching a documentary about the Beverly Hillbilllies, and it showed Jethro in the front hall and the music was coming out of the walls somehow, and Jethro said some day he was going to tear out the walls to find out where it was coming from.

But, he said, after the music plays, someone always comes to the front door, and sure enough after a while someone knocked.

She was head of the Historical Association and she saw Granny's loom out front so she wanted to talk to her. Jed said that she was in the kitchen making butter. "By hand? the woman asked. 'Oh, no. She uses a churn."

So they went in to the kitchen and the woman was so pleased, she took a camera out of her purse and asked if she could take pictures. "What kind of pictures," Jed asked. "Still pictures." "Get your gun, Pearl. She's a revenuer," Granny yelled.

But things calmed down and Jed got a trunk with more old things in it, and he said to her, "When you look in this trunk, you'll be happier than a cow in RED CLOVER". And she was.

I'm so glad the historical footage of their life in Beverly Hills exists.

Reply to
Micky
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How about 2 buttons in series, each with a diode across it (opposite polarity)? With no button pressed, no current flows. Press either button, and current flows. Polarity depends on which button was pressed. Now you have a 2-door doorbell with less wiring.

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Mark Lloyd
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Mine is hanging on a nail on the wall in the furnace room, with a plug on the primary wires. It's marked 16V, but measures 18V.

Where I used to live, I never found the bell transformer.

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Mark Lloyd

I suspect you'd not realize any savings. It's unlikely that the two "buttons" would be located near each other. Rather, one would be front door and other back/side door. Annunciator and/or XFMR probably somewhere in the middle -- so total wire length remains roughly the same.

It would also prevent the use of any "mechanism" that requires the continued presence of power to operate (as in this case).

I have "buttons" at the front and rear doors, another at the front edge of the front porch area (in case we opt to screen that area in), the entryway from the garage, the side door into the garage and a button out at the driveway (i.e., "Open the garage door for me!"). The entryway through the garage also has an electromechanical lock mechanism so the door can be "unlocked" electrically (though I am not happy with the choice of "door hardware" :< )

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Don Y

Tony Hwang posted for all of us...

If she has an electrician in to do a doorbell then I don't think she is capable of measuring the voltage or other testing. This is not a slam against her, it's not in her knowledge set.

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Tekkie®

snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca posted for all of us...

+1 As always
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Tekkie®

The claimed OP.

Reply to
Don Y

No, I don't know how to do this, but it sure helps when I meet with the electrician. Thanks.

Reply to
Kate

A new doorbell and doorbell button was installed six years ago. It all wor ked fine until the light first went out two years ago. I bought a generic doorbell push button at Home Depot and it worked for a year. Lately, it se ems I need to buy a new doorbell button every few months. The electrician installed a new button and it worked for three months. It is easy to do, s o I installed two more and they both lasted a few months only.

The new doorbell button does not list any volts, etc. As yo can tell, I don't know much about this and I have no idea where the t ransformer is. If it is the fancy box that I bought, and the transformer is inside of that box, well, it hangs on a wall just inside of the front door . It is about 8 feet away from the button.

Thanks for your help.

Reply to
Kate

Thanks for your reply. The diode hooks onto a screw, that is inside of the actual doorbell button.

Reply to
Kate

Does the transformer come with the new doorbell kit? Thanks.

Reply to
Kate

These are electronic chimes. Yes, when the light is out, the doorbell will still chime. Thanks for all of your time in replying. It helped.

Reply to
Kate

Great advice. I will call the manufacturer and hopefully they can help me.

Reply to
Kate

I had a new doorbell button and decorative box (not sure what you call it) that hangs on the wall inside. That is where I decide which chime will play.

It worked fine for five years. The problem started when my doorbell button light stayed out. The chime worked, but not the light. Since then, I have replaced many buttons.

Thanks.

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Kate

OK, I just thought of something. When the electrician installed my new wir ed doorbell unit, I recall he said something about putting the transformer in my fuse box. I just went out to look, and I don't know what a transform er looks like, but could there be a chance that he took the cover off of my fuse box, and installed it behind the cover? I am thinking that the trans former is small enough to be placed there.

Thanks.

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Kate

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