Dog problem

I was being a bit sarcastic. reason being is that I've never witnessed a moth on dog poo. Flies! Another story.

BTW, I've not even seen a dog eat a moth ball or get near one. They will eat human food/plants that are poison.

-- Oren

..through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo..

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Oren
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Driving home one day; it is 110F in the desert. a dog barking for 'days' (hours each day). The owner is/was a casino worker and left the dog outside.

On the turn to my area I spot a County Animal Control Officer on the side of the street. She was apparently on her cell phone. I parked and walked to the truck. Pleading with the official to "drive by" and observe. Not a chance... Take the report and have others also complain. Right!

-- Oren

..through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo..

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Oren

You I guess, but who cares. Here's an extreme example in local paper:

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you think this poor woman would have listened to neighbors complaints? Frank

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Do you think this poor woman would have listened to neighbors complaints?

Reminds me of a picture in my college psychology textbook: Some poor soul in a psych hospital, who had stacks of folded towels 10 feet high all around his room. Some sort of OC behavior problem gone way over the top.

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JoeSpareBedroom

No. I am familiar with "dog collectors" and "dog rescuers." They feel that they can care for dogs better than anyone else and will save any dog they can. It is a (not so uncommon) mental disorder. Anyone with more than 4 dogs in the house is actually a kennel, not a house, as defined by our local ordinance.

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Phisherman

"I am not a kennel." Richard Nixon.

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mm

One could probably use an address that doesn't exist. As to using another name, there is generally nothing illegal about using another name unless it is to commit fraud. It's still the person's name, even if he just gave it to himself and even if it is not the one on his driver's license.

In some cases, I'm guessing they may have laws about what name can be used, but I suspect it is mostly about banking, and not about this.

As to attesting, I doubt that everywhere complaints requires attestation, which implies an oath or the penalty of perjury. I'll bet some places, especially places that haven't had many baseless complaints, complaints can be filed by phone.

That might be true here about dogs being walked without a leash, although I think it only requires 3 complaints by one person, but that's because there is no evidence left behind.

Once they get out to his property and see the what's on it, they'll have all hte evidence they need without any neighbor's cooperation.

Heck, they issue search warrants on the word of anonymous tips, I think, or maybe the tipster has to be known to one cop etc., but I don't think even the cop has to know the tipster's real name.

Laws vary.

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mm

Most states (or many) might have a requirement to _Record_ any legal name changes.

Given the Dog Catcher is a law enforcement officer; I suspect a penalty of perjury would apply. It is an official law enforcement paper and will become public record.

I'm sure! The county officials need to see this mess. I applaud the OP for "walking slow and drinking plenty of water". It will be Winter soon and he won't be bothered - so much! :)

Yes.

Confidential Informants are often assigned a code name/number. Only those needing to know the exact identity is required. A Judge will or should at least require a "record of reliability" recorded by LEO of the informant, before issuing a warrant.

I could call in a tip on water waste, but seriously doubt any real action from the authorities.

-- Oren

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison

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Oren

mm wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

a-hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa LOL

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FM

Maybe all, but those are *legal* name changes. I'm not talking about changing one's legal name, but adopting additional names. Gnerally, you can use any name you want in the US as long as you don't do it to commit fraud.

In addition, where does it say that you have to sign a complaint about the neighbor's dog with your *legal* name.

I"m going to post another post with the reasons this is of special interest to me, and what I have yet to look into.

Not unless whatever is signed says on it that there is a penalty of perjury, and even then, that might only apply to everything but one's own name and signature. In this case, the narrative and any boxes that are checked, and the complainer's address I think, but not the name. Because using a "phony" name to complain about a real smell and a real pile of feces is not fraud.

If one is all

There may well be a penalty for lying on a government form, but I replied as I did because you used the word "attest", which is from the same root as testify, meaning to say something under oath or affirmation with the penalty of perjury.** But even then I think the lying would have to be about the smell, or the period of time the smell has existed, etc.

**(I don't believe anyone in the US is ever obliged to take an oath, or to swear to tell the truth, but the law does provide for the same civil and criminal penalies as if one had taken an oath and lied. The US Constitution provides that the President-elect can be inaugurated either by swearing or affirming.)

I too urged him to talk to the neighbor, although now that I hear it is all over his yard, I'm a little less optimistic about getting cooperation. Another post about that too, but I want to post this one before it gets too long.

But more below.

Of course they don't need a warrant in this case. Maybe they can't go on to the dirty guy's property without more than an anonymous tip, but they don't have to go on to his property. He has at least 3 neigbhors and I get the feeling it is more than 3. If permission is needed, they can get permission from any of the neighbors to go into their backyard. They'll be able to see and smell from there.

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mm

An anonymous complaint means that the person making the complaint does not give their name. So, how would it be made public? Same with our local PD..they ask whether you want to give your name (and probably use caller ID). Complaints about code violations where I live allow, specifically, anonymous complaints. There is wording about whether the complaint goes on record, but the inspection might make that happen. Confusing.

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Norminn

:On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:42:11 GMT, Dan_Musicant :wrote: : :>Now, I'm certain that it's an egregious code violation. : :This should help... (sorry but I had to). : :

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:(GRIN)

LOL! Thanks, that was super. :)

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Dan_Musicant

:Here you go: :

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the Disgusting Job to Us! : :Karen Ah, I just went to the listing and it had expired (and there's no information). I may mention this possibility when I talk to him, depending on how the conversation goes. I assume the listing was for a pooper scooper service.

Dan

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Dan_Musicant

:Dave Bugg wrote: : :> Norminn wrote: :> :>>..... - code :>>allows anonymous complaints for a good reason. :> :> :> Except that code doesn't allow complaints to remain anonymous past the :> initial investigation. If an agency takes action -- a fine or citation -- :> the records become public for due process proceedings at hearings. The name :> of all complainants will be made public. :> :> Dan (the OP) is right on the money with his approach. There is plenty of :> time to involve government if the neighbor persists in his behavior once Dan :> talks with him. :> :An anonymous complaint means that the person making the complaint does :not give their name. So, how would it be made public? Same with our :local PD..they ask whether you want to give your name (and probably use :caller ID). Complaints about code violations where I live allow, :specifically, anonymous complaints. There is wording about whether the :complaint goes on record, but the inspection might make that happen. :Confusing.

Seems to me that I can, if a conversation with the neighbor doesn't lead to a solution, call the city (presumably the housing department, or they can redirect me) and ask where I stand on this, if I can make an anonymous complaint and remain anonymous. I imagine that I can find out the answers to that on the phone before initiating any action involving the codes and city agencies.

Dan

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Dan_Musicant

"I am not a butt." -- Bart Simpson

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Harry

Our local code: (noise)

"If you choose to place a request for service for a noisy animal, you should be aware that you are an important part of the solution. In the event the officer observes a violation and a citation is issued, your name will appear on the citation and you will be asked to testify in court to the habitual nature of the noise. If after three complaint visits a noise violation is not observed by the Officer, the complainant must complete a formal criminal complaint packet for the District Attorney's office to review for possible prosecution. In most cases, the District Attorney's Office will send a written notice of violation to the animal owner, advising that continued violation may result in criminal prosecution."

I just don't think it is good advice to use a false name.

-- Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

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Oren

I would ask him once to clean it up. If he did not do so then I would put on my rubber boots and gas mask and go out there and do it myself. Then I would make a point of letting dipshit know that I had to do it. Give him a call or visit as you are going out to do it. Put the dogshit on his curb on trash day and put a big sign on it that says DOG SHIT. This dude may get it or not. Though the solution is unpleasant, it beats the alternative.

The alternative is calling the authorities. As far as I am concerned, you never call the authorities on your neighbor, very dangerous. That guy knows where you live. What do you really know about him and what he is capable of?? If the authorities approach him about his yard he will know it was you that went behind his back when you could have asked nicely or done it your self or both.

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Do you think this poor woman would have listened to neighbors

Yup, that means that Dan's neighbor won't respond to his requests; case closed. Sheesh.

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Dave Bugg

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>> Do you think this poor woman would have listened to neighbors

No you're not, Mr. President. But you ended up in the dog house anyway. :-)

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Dave Bugg

clipped

Our city has it all on their website.

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Norminn

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