In these days of greedy tort lawyers (and their plaintiffs) looking for
"jackpot" lawsuits, one must be very, very careful.
My concern is not just the pool but also the slide. A kid could fall or slip
or twist a joint, etc. You might want to call back your insurance agent and
tell them about your homemade slide (since it's not a commercially-produced
item). Just to be sure that it isn't excluded.
I hate having to even think about this stuff. What happened to the good ole'
days when, through the power of common sense, people knew that life wasn't
I have been reading this group for years but have never posted as I
don't like the idea of my mail box filling with spam.
One comment on this thread leaves me with no choice. Maybe I
misunderstood, but I got the impression that you have a hose on the
suction side of a 1 HP pump laying in the bottom of a childs pool.
All swimming pools these days have multiple inlet openings in the pool
so that nobody can get any body orifices sealed directly to the suction
of the recirculation pump. Years ago there was a horrendous case where a
child sat on the single inlet opening in an improperly installed pool
and was disemboweled when the suction of the pump sucked her intestines
from her body.
PLEASE either put in a tee and use two suction hoses in the pool or
drill multiple holes in the first six inches or so of the suction hose.
Kids are likely to like the feel of the water flowing into that hose and
accidents can happen.
On a lighter note, it is common practice when designing control systems
to throttle the discharge of a centrifical pump to control the flow. The
current draw does decrease as flow is reduced by this method. Never
restrict the inlet side of the pump as it will then sound like it is
pumping marbles due to the cavitation caused by the extreme low pressure
in the suction of the pump. This also leads to early destruction of the
impeller of the pump.
Now that Ron mentioned it, I too recall hearing the story about suction
disemboweling. Makes me shudder to think about it.
Even with two (or more) hoses, I'd still drill extra holes in the tubing to
prevent a water-tight seal from ever occurring. Otherwise, you'll just end
up with two (or more) injured/dead children, instead of one.
BI want to thank everyone for your very helpful suggestions.
Yesterday's kids' pool party went rather well. Here are the pictures:
kids' faces have been edited out for privacy.
Kids loved the slide, even though it may look ridiculous for
adults. They spent a couple of hours playing in water. It was about 95
degrees, and the water was about as warm as well due to constant
One thing I will do is add a tee or a cross on the intake side to
avoid injuries related to body parts sucked in. That was a big mistake
on my part not to do it, although I did cut some notches around the
There were no injuries around the pool, but one child bumped into
another on the swing, resulting in a blackeye.
Cool looking pool. I've seen round ones like that, but not a rectangular
one. Is it the kind that comes with it's own pump and filter? Would you mind
sharing where you bought it and approximately how much it cost? That plastic
slide is neat also. Was that designed for a playground set?
I hate to keep harping on safety issues but, even with the GFCI outlet,
seeing those electrical cords lying in a big puddle under the slide gives me
the willies! It would make much more sense to move the pump to a dry
location far from the pool and run longer hoses to and from it.
We bought it last year, for $19.95. I think that we bought it at
walmart. It is actually quite well made for a kids pool, very thick
vinyl. I want to buy a bigger round pool, of similar quality.
Thanks. I think that having those water hoses lying around and going
to the remote pump is also a hazard. What I will do is make sure that
cords are attached to the wooden structure and do not lie on the
ground. Thanks for a good safety reminder.
Which is more dangerous: tripping on a hose or getting electrocuted? The
GFCI is an emergency back-up: it should never be relied upon as a primary
defense against electrical shock. If you're really worried about the hoses,
make a small wood platform at the base of your slide's ladder and run the
hoses under them.
Besides, the children can trip on extension cords too.
Do you have any idea what a straight line that is?
"you shoulda blacked out your own face, you ugly...." but I'm way too polite
to write that.
What kind of body parts get sucked into the intake? I'm not sure I want to
This brings to mind another question. Sump pumps are probably not designed
for use in water occupied by humans. There could be potential electrocution
risk. If this is what you have, at least make sure you have a GFI on the
power to the pump.
Thanks. What I have is a grounded 1 HP lawn sprinkler pump, which is
plugged into a GFCI protected receptacle:
Pictures of my setup are at:
The sprinkler pump should have no problem with a garden hose on the output -
it's designed for that. A larger hose on the input might help avoid
cavitation damage but it is probably not a real problem.
Thank you. I was mistaken about dangers of outlet restriction on
centrifugal pumps, but I was corrected by more knowledgeable
people. Right now I have 1" ID hoses connected to it, it makes a lot
of flow on the water slide!
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