your project

I posted my last "project"--such as it was. Hope you are not offended by my use of punctuation.

I made my first table. While I had no problems cutting and gluing the table I had a lot of problems with the finish. With extensive research and experimentation it is complete and is sitting beside me as I type.

While I know it it not what is consider good by the subscribers to this newsgroup, I am satisfied with my First table.

Your first? It may very well be better than any ones first. If you are happy with your results be proud, none of us are perfect.

Actually I post most of my work as I do it. But I will not repost for the sake of showing it under this thread.

got pictures?

Got pictures?

Electric Comet wrote in news:n26dqi$70k$1 @dont-email.me:

I decided to make a set of cauls. Wouldn't you know it, though? My tools are all set up to cut straight and all the hand planes were down with a case of Oak rust! I've got them sitting in a special Nitrogen solution to hopefully reverse it.

Puckdropper

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 6:56:17 AM UTC-6, keith_

My first table was in 9th grade shop class - 2'X 2' top, 4 legs with lower stretchers, no skirt-type leg-top attachment.... the legs attached directly to the top with "dowels". I had no idea of what a dowel rod was. I carve d "dowels" (nubs) on the leg tops, to insert into the table holes. The te acher made it a point of showing the class what I did (carved dowels), then he explained, to me, what a dowel is for, etc.

Lately, my projects have been put on hold. Been away from home, a lot, tak ing care of Mom, with dementia. To engage her, we built a new bird house. Hope to bring it back to her, today, for priming and painting. Seems, t hese little projects (flowers, pot plants, also) helps keep her mind off ot her "issues".... calms her anxieties, etc.

I hope to be back in the shop tomorrow and do a little more work on the alt ernative camp dining table.... E.R. cedar, this time 'round.

Sonny

I'm certainly not... sure makes it easier to read.

nope might make another tray and will try to remember a pic

i will guess oak rust is from the resins in oak

the useful projects are always the best

just curious why the glossy then the satin

i know very little about finishing

i always figure that if you like what you make then it is a success

i always notice my flaws in the stuff i make and no one else does the shelf i made has a saw burn mark here and there and it almost looks like the wood grain

i noticed it but no one else mentioned it

like the birdhouse idea

now i know what to do with all the scraps i have i know an old man that might like one for similar reasons

what kind of bird or is it purely decorative

i know some birds are picky about the house they will use

Satin uses a talc additive to give a "satin" appearance and starts off as a gloss. Gloss simply does not talc to muddy up the finish.

Typically you use gloss to get a good clear finish and then as a last coat add the satin.

Good for you...ee cummings et al be damned :)

No, from the tannins. Which is why you don't use iron/steel (non stainless) fasteners in oak.

i use resins and tannins to mean the same but i did not know this about oak and fasteners

i made a small table using oak not too long ago and use stainless just for the look and i guess i count myself lucky for doing that

i bought high quality stainless nuts and bolts

Electric Comet wrote in news:n2b7h3$kbj$3 @dont-email.me:

Search the archives here. There's plenty of good information about oak rust.

Puckdropper

Electric Comet wrote in news:n2b7h3$kbj$3 @dont-email.me:

This is a problem you seem to have, using words to mean things they don't mean. To the rest of us, you end up making as much sense as Lewis Carroll's Humpty Dumpty.

Apropos of the current issue, tannins are water soluble, while resins are not. That is why they are a problem with oak, because water content in the wood (or humidity in the air) can dissolve them and allow them to react with iron.

John

interesting oak rust is a fungus

tannins are a constituent of resins tannins in the pulp and paper industry are considered corrosion inhibitors

and a study showed that pH was a corrosive factor and that tannins are a corrosion inhibitor