: If you want/need a decent but not terribly expensive spray unit, try
: the lower-range Grayco that HD sells (or at least did a couple years
: ago--haven't been back to see since it's 2-hr drive to get to one).
: Have done the entire barn and house w/ oil primer and latex topcoat w/
: no problems. Wasn't cheap, but not terribly expensive, either. About
: $200-250 iirc...
I bought the next one up, which was either $299 or $399. Terrific
tool -- painted a whole house interior faster than I would have thought
possible, and pretty easy cleanup IF you follow the directions to a T.
-- Andy Barss
I bought a Wagner power roller many years ago. Pre-use setup and
post-use cleaning took way longer than any time it might have saved in
the rolling process. Plus, the infernal noise of the compressor running
almost constantly left me with ringing ears and a splitting headache.
I couldn't sell it at three garage sales.... but the insurance company
finally paid for it when Hurricane Katrina flooded my house!
There's a problem in general with almost all gadgets that are intended to make
painting faster: they're speeding up the wrong part of the process. _By_far_
the most time-consuming aspect of doing a proper paint job is the prep work:
patching, washing, scraping, sanding, masking, etc. The actual application of
the paint goes quickly by comparison.
No ear protection?
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Only used it once - would have definitely worn ear protection the second
time. As I recall, there was no mention of that in the instructions -
the compressor was only supposed to run intermittently. But the thing
didn't seal properly - that was another problem.
But, alas, taking the drudgery out of painting is a much more elusive
goal than building a better mousetrap.
My experience with them is just the opposite. A former neighbor had one of
these things many years
ago. His retirement scheme in the late 80's during the turndown was to buy up
challenged homes, fix them up, and then rent them to make the loan payment. I
helped him paint 5 or
6 houses with this tool, and it performed flawlessly (except for one
unforgettable burst hose caused
by a nicked hose).
The Power Roller is a great tool. It will really let you put on the paint - a
gallon in 15 minutes
if you work hard at it. Virtually no dripping once you get the hang of it.
The efficiency trick is to paint all rooms and ceilings the same color - off
white. It takes the
better part of an hour to do a good cleanup job. Not a tool I would reach for
to paint one room,
but to paint an empty house all the same color? You bet. It would be my first
Never tried any Wagner. I've borrowed a professional ($800) paint
sprayer from a neighbor, and it works GREAT.
My vote: A cheap Sears router (1/2 or 3/4 HP) from the early 90s.
Height adjustment is done with a plastic ring that's clamped onto the
base, and goes all the way around the motor. The motor itself is in a
plastic housing, and has a spiral plastic thread that engages the
height adjustment ring - or not, depending on the phase of the moon.
And the height adjustment ring isn't tight, so it spins around by
itself. All this gives rise to ...
ARHA - a feature available only on Sears routers:
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Exactly! I was routing a dado on a router table. When the bit came loose, it
broke through the top of the work piece and scared me silly (although my
brother who also inhabits the wreck might say that condition is congenital).
I have to agree with you on that one. Mine fell apart about 1' into a cut
and even Hercules couldn't tighten the cheap screws enough to make it hold
its height. The POS didn't even last one project. I consider it the worst
Christmas gift ever.
But the most worthless I have is a Crapsman detail sander. The head vibrates
so much side to side that it will ruin your work instead of sanding it. Took
me 3 hours to fix a 1 minute use of it. I gonna feel bad for the person that
buys it in a garage sale.
Black & Decker detail sander. Bad bad bad. All about noise and
vibration and *nothing* about sanding. Total junk. POS
Porter Cable 555 biscuit joiner. The damn fence was a fight to get
parallel to the cutter. I didn't toss it, I sold it and recovered
about 80% of what I paid. Not completely a POS though.
The Rockler diamond coated cones for sharpening hollow mortise
chisels. The coating immediately removes itself from the cone upon
application to the chisel. POS.
Craftsman router bit sharpening system. A small stone to be mounted
to the router, a jig attached to the bottom of the router, align the
bit with the stone, turn on and move the bit over the stone. Junk. A
router bit destroying shark if you can get past the idea of spinning a
stone at 25,000 rpm. POS.
Craftsman jigsaw. POS All noise and vibration and very little actual
cutting of wood.
My vote is with "user error".
I bought a relatively inexpensive ($100), small (quart cup) Wagner
sprayer around 20 years ago, no problems ever. Mostly, I use it on
louvered doors but on cabinets too. I've used oil, latex, lacquer,
stain...sprays them all. Only problem is that it will spit globs if I
let the cup get too low but that is user error.
I also bought a bigger, more expensive one when I built my house to
paint the interior. I sprayed close to 80 gallons in three days, sold
the sprayer for almost what I paid. I sold it not because it didn't
work well - it did - but because I had no further use for it.
On 12 Oct 2006 10:58:46 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Your way too hard on Wagner.. Some 30 years ago my brother bought one
(about 40$) and offered to paint my car with it. Being dumber then
than now, I agreed. The paint job actually looked good - from across
the street, in the dark, and if you squinted .
All spray painting is now done with an air compressor powered gun.
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