Oh yeah, we probably all have one of those stories from our initial
botched experiments. Mine was building a gate frame to the backyard
fence at my very first house. I'd just purchased my first router, so
for the joinery on the frame I tried 1/2" dovetail joints on the
pressure treated 2x4s. Two dovetails per joint, if I remember. Man,
that thing twisted all to hell and back, even with the faceboards
nailed on. I eventually had so much iron bracketing holding it together
that it sagged into the ground from the weight of the brackets, screws
It would be embarrassing, but it's just too funny now.
Oh. Well, in a house that's under about 175 years old in the U.S., if
it ain't butt joints it ain't joined. Toe nailing 2x4s took the place
of M&T joints along about 1835 or so, though I have seen some barns
built around 1839 with M&T joints.
On 2 Sep 2005 22:40:08 -0700, email@example.com wrote:
This wasn't used for a chalk line. It was used to make marks on items
that were going to be cut out.
Let's say that you are fitting a solid backed vanity to a wall. The
chalk would be rubbed onto the pipe that stuck out the most and then
the cabinet would be set against the pipe. The chalk left on the back
of the vanity would mark the outline of the pipe, or close enough to
cut it within the limits of the escutcheon.
Then you worked your way back.
It was also used to rub on the edge of a scribed line to see how the
fit needed to be adjusted.
Tom Watson - WoodDorker
interesting. I wonder when that fell by the wayside. I guess I have
seen that chalk for sale, once or twice, but rarely, for sure. I
learned fitting with transfer color as a carver, usually using china
white or prussian blue. the few times I've been called to fit with
transfer color as a carpenter I've improvised with whatever is at hand-
often keel, but I have used stick chalk and even sharpie. I've even
used carbon paper. heh, that'll date me...
Tom Watson wrote:
<<The happiest day of my life was when I had become too valuable to be
sent for coffee. That was before Self Esteem was even invented.<<
Sombitch... I just about fell off my chair when I read that. No
I remember going to the convenience store to get coffee, cigarettes,
and ALWAYS winding up short. I was so intimidated by the guys I worked
with I made it up out of my own pocket on laborer's wages.
I think of the guys that would break the bands on a lift of 2X4s and
have me carry 140 out of 144 to where they were working across the site
while the forklift sat in the shade. I remember being told every day
with complete conviction on the part of the tellers that I was so damn
stupid that I should consider myself lucky, no... privileged that they
would explain ANYTHING to me.
I remember when they started to let me eat lunch with them. The first
times I got to drive the crew truck; the first time I was left "in
charge" for an hour or two. And then finally after about 9 to 10
months I was invited to go for a beer after work. I wasn't invited to
stay, but I had a couple and then was chased off.
Damn that was all a long time ago. It almost seems like another person
as I sit here in front of the computer on Sunday night, instead of
being outside on the patio with a beer sharpening my steel blades
(wellllll before carbide) getting ready for the week.
But now things have changed. My guys all cost too much for me to have
any goofing around "dogging" the new guys. And now I have learned the
hard way, that the old ways that we were brought up into on the job
site are offenses for which you can be fined or sued. I have been
before the Texas Workforce Commission enough times to learn the ropes.
So none of that hazing exists on my jobs anymore for a lot of reasons.
Besides, all the folks that come out to work today simply won't
tolerate any "injustices" from their employers.
Thanks for the memories Tom... now knock it off. I can feel a funk
coming on. I really miss some of the old guys I worked with after I
finally became an accepted member of their community. Some were really
good guys, and it meant a lot to me to gain some respect from them.
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