When You Start Out As A Carpenter...

Sep 02, 2005 48 Replies

In response to a previous question.



When I started out I was expected to have a nail apron that included these items:



A Tape Measure - A Stanley 16' Tape Measure.



A Carpenter's Pencil - This should have come from a lumber yard or some such, and all I had t do was learn how to sharpen it. *



A Keel - A keel is a piece of yellow wax crayon. Our's were Dixons.



A Scriber - A scriber is a schoolboy's compass, usually brass looking, with a golf course sized piece of pencil in one end.



A Chalk Line - Also usually from Stanley, although as I got smarter, I bought the ones from Strait-Line.



A Utility Knife - Once again, a Stanley, one of the ones that retracted.



A Piece Of Blue Chalk - It came in the shape of a half of a sphere, and it was blue.



A Combo Square - My first one was a cheap ass Stanley, my current one is from Athol.



I also had a hammer holster with a Plumb 16 oz curved claw hammer, on a fiberglass stick.


That was it for Carpentry 101. When I was there for a bit, I got the Sears Leather Toolbelt - changed to a 20 oz Plumb - got a truck - and made money.


Hope this answers your questions.


Tom Watson - WoodDorker tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)

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You didn't have a brad nailer so you could use brads to hold boards together while the glue dries? Jim

Erm! havn't you forgotten summat?

We didn't even know what a "brad" was.

Tom Watson - WoodDorker tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)

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I reckon I have, but I don't know what a "summat" is.

I'm hoping that it's a nailset, which I left out, and shouldn't have.

I also left out the catspaw, but that came later, when you were carrying a proper tote.

Which was a partner to the Wonderbar.

Which went along with the Framing Square.

Which went into the chisels - and we were talking about what could be carried in a cloth nail apron - Oh Lordy - It has been too long ago...

Tom Watson - WoodDorker tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)

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You forgot the marking gauge, thats one o the items every carpenter got. :-)

summat : something.

What is a "Marking Gauge", in the regard of Carpentry?

I have a marking gauge that I use for mortise and tenon joinery, but it is part of a joiner's or cabinetmaker's kit.

Tom Watson - WoodDorker tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)

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Same thing, you draw it up or push it down the lenght of the wood and scribe a line in the wood.

That ain't no carpenter's tool.

If I'd of had one of them in my pouch, I'd have been let go.

(got a nice ulmia now, wouldn't let go of it - but I ain't no carpenter, now.)

Tom Watson - WoodDorker tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)

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"ben" wrote in news:Hf6Se.101346$G8.84 @text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:

My carpenter uncle would have used the compass, but then he was a finish carpenter.

Patriarch, who was fascinated by those tools as a kid...

I think that was called a 16 penny smooth box scribe. j4

Ka Papa Kuhikuhi.

Now, cut that out!

Tom Watson - WoodDorker tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)

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"Brad" was that clueless twit who only got hired because he was the boss' son-in-law...what, you didn't have one?

Lee

I think we're a generation apart, but not that much had changed...

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I had a run of hydes, then switched to a brand I can't remember right now...

by the time I started wearing nailbags it was all bottles of powdered chalk.

my first one was a stanley. now I have about a dozen, including at least one from athol. I still have the stanley, but it 'aint true no more...

my first one.... hmm... not sure. the first one I seriously used for carpentering was a 20oz vaughan on hickory....

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So how does/did a carpenter lay out M&T joinery?

Man, we should all be so lucky. I take about $500 worth of assorted odds and ends with me daily.

Shouldn't there at least be a couple more things in that apron? To wit:

1.5" framing chisel Handsaw (I like pull saws, myself) Cold Chisel Coping Saw Four-in-hand rasp Rat-tail bastard file Nail punch Flat bar Crow bar T-bevel Framing Square Plumb bob String line Cresent wrench Channel locks Screwdriver (or cordless drill)

Depends on what you're doing, I suppose. I've got several stables of tools for different jobs. The above is just the stuff that crosses over several disciplines.

I've gotta agree with Tom- that's not a jobsite carpentry tool. If you want to do that, that's what the combination square and the pencil are for.

Oh. Well, in a house that's under about 175 years old in the U.S., if it ain't butt joints it ain't joined. Toe nailing 2x4s took the place of M&T joints along about 1835 or so, though I have seen some barns built around 1839 with M&T joints.

on this continent he doesn't, unless he's a timber framer. we won't go there.

thems that do M&T are furniture makers.

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