Apparently it was his normal speech at that time. Years later he was obviously embarrassed by mention of this behavior. I am certain being immersed in the culture of the time had something to do with it. (oblique reference to drugs here)
Well like you know that is the way we like are suppose to speak these days. Like "My Bad" is seriously cool like those prison bitch britches every one is like wearing. Totally!
Unfortunately, he's totally wrong. "Windows Live Mail" is indeed a desktop mail "CLIENT" and is MSFT's latest replacement for Outlook Express and can be run on both Vista and Windows XP/SP2
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"Windows Mail" is more or less the crippled mail client that ships with Vista only.
It may be 'slower' but it is a lot faster than I can read and write.
It is trivial to use, follows threads accross multiple groups searches back to the earliest days of UseNet, you don't have to subscribe to individual newsgroups, and you can use it on any machine with web access.
The absence of a kill file is its greatest weakness, IMHO.
Fred the Red Shirt wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
I've used Google Groups a bit, and have not been impressed. Everything's so much easier through a real newsreader. Plus, I have a kill file. (It matches regular expressions, too, so I get some practice.)
My ISP recently "switched to Google" or "Offloaded a bunch of stuff to Google so they can make more profit." One of the things to go was NNTP access. So now, I'm paying for Usenet NNTP access.
I do switch to Google Groups when I want to search for messages. One thing Google excells at is, of course, search.
I never upgrade operating systems until the latest and greatest has been out for 6 months or so and Microsoft has come out with at least one service pack upgrade. None of their products are worth using until they have come out with at least the first round of fixes for them.
98 was worthless until 98 2nd Edition came out and XP had all kinds of quirks until XP Service Pack 1 fixed them. I'll be using XP for about another year or so before I even consider using Vista. This holds true for many other software vendors products as well. They all release their stuff before it works properly and then expect their customers to help them fix it. I'll just wait till it works and all the printer and peripheral drivers are available.
I use whatever OS/OS version will run my software needs most reliably ... IMO, it's the only smart way to chose/upgrade an operating system, server or workstation, regardless of version. AAMOF, until last year I still had four DNS servers running NT4 because that was the only thing an older version of BIND, for which we wrote our custom DNS software, would reliably run on.
With MSFT these days, a service pack is mostly a collection of previously issued/pushed fixes. IME, an _individual_ can miss out on some advanced computing, particularly in the area of security, by being too rigid on when you upgrade (all bets are off if you must support a large company of servers/workstations).
A good example is Vista ... most, if not all, of the "performance and reliability fixes" had already been pushed well in advance of SP1. AAMOF, those who have installed Vista SP1 as of the last couple of days report seeing no improvements in this area whatsoever.
I didn't even know that there was a SP1 for Vista yet. It's still way too soon to adopt it, in my opinion. I'll stick with XP Pro and it's fixes. It's working quite well for me right now so I have no desire to open a new can of worms.
Don't blame you ... IIRC, SP1 "Final" for Vista was sent to manufacturing in early to mid February, but many already have it, including those SP1 beta testers for various parts of the OS. (I was involved in testing the USB "ReadyBoost" feature and had the opportunity to download the final a couple of weeks back, but didn't bother).
I'll wait until SP1 is pushed out on Windows Update, since I have no problems whatsoever with Vista at this point due to the "performance and reliability" fixes already installed.
If I recall correctly, the original question dealt with using Windows Mail, in Vista, to access these newsgroups. I'm doing just that, right now: Have been since I got this new computer a few days before Christmas. I suppose I could use Microsoft Outlook, in fact I did for a week or so, but for whatever reasons I decided I preferred the simplicity of Windows Mail.
This computer is sitting next to a 7-year-old computer that is currently running Windows XP with SP2. Both work well, but the new machine has 4 times the memory and three times the speed and, frankly, it's now my favorite. I got used to the look and feel of Vista (not that much different from XP) and have no problems with either system.
Great quote from Robert Cringely: "Microsoft finally figured out how to get respect for one of its operating systems: release a new one that sucks harder than the last one"
/happy user of OpenSuse and amazed at how much faster it runs than Windows.
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