Try Again! Anyone have used the Grizzly sliding table router table....

[HMFIC- 1369]

looking for pro's & con's... the table appears to offer what I need... just want to see how others think about it.

TIA Joe

[mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.ne]

Wow ... looked this beast up ... weighs 125 pounds! Grizzly is known for making hefty well built equipment, albeit not usually 'polished'. Sorry, I can't give you any info other than what I've read about the table. Seems to be worth the bucks if you got 'em!

Jack

HMFIC- 1369 wrote:

[HMFIC- 1369]

With Shipping it's way over what I'd like but it appears to meet most of my requirements. Even though the sliding table "looks" good, I'm wondering of it works out that way.

I've looked 'em all over, I do like the Veritas best so far and as someone suggested dumping the right angle it works out a lot cheaper! , but the Grizzly appears to have caught my attention, and in the least deserves further homework.

[BillyBob]

I have a cast iron sliding table on my table saw and I love it. I'm not sure I see that a sliding table on a router table adds that much value, especially an aluminimum one. The sliding table is only useful for wood lengths of 26-27" or less. How do you use featherboards from the side? There's no miter slot and you cannot use magnetic devices on an aluminum table.

Bob

[HMFIC- 1369]

Some good points! There is no miter slot (the Veritas short one too). Personally, I'm not sure I will use it much. I haven't used the one that I have now, I simply using the fence. Both the MCLS and the Veritas are less expensive models. I think it's time to contact Grizzly, the reason behind my purchase for the most part is to make cabinet doors. If I can get 36" of travel off of the sliding table then I'm getting closer to a go. If not then either the Veritas $324.00 or the MCLS $345.95 shipping included. will look better, the Grizzly is up to $396.00 .....

Thanks, Joe

[BillyBob]

That's impossible with a sliding table that is 30 3/4" long. You have to deduct the "overlap" between the slider and the main table body and also the room required for the slider fence. The slider on my table saw is 30" long. The maximum board width it will handle is 24". I would expect similar results from the Grizzley router table. If you can figure out how to work it without the fence, you may get 3-4 more inches, but that's nowhere near 36" of travel.

Bob

[BillyBob]

Yes, but the veritas is all steel, so magnetic featherboards work. Also you can clamp something to the edge of the table, since it has exposed clamping edge on all four sides. Additionally, Veritas sells a fence mounted holddown that has side acting clamps on it. Of course its limited to narrow boards. If you don't use side featherboards, its no big deal. I get along without them.

Bob

[My M-14]

The way I was looking at was that both tables are 30", if the slider draws back 6" before the bit that'll give me 36" of travel. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks Joe

[HMFIC - 1369]

I sent an "e" to Grizzly, they acknowledged and escalated the question quickly. I'll post when I get it!

[BillyBob]

Joe you're looking at it wrong. I tried to think about all kinds of ways to convince you with words but I cannot describe it. Get some boards or pieces of paper to create a model of the router table, sliding table and the board attached to it. Move it around and take some measurements. I think you'll convince yourself that there is no way to get 36" of travel.

Bob

[Upscale]

If you're talking about the G4227 sliding table, then the stated specs list a crosscut capacity of 26" and the travel is 48". The only way I can reconcile those numbers not having seen one of these tables is to think that the beginning of a 24" long sliding table travelling 24" all the way to the end of it's 24" diameter adds up to 48". Since the saw blade would be in the middle of this operation, than you'd have approximately 24" crosscut capacity or an actual 26" in this case.

[HMFIC- 1369]

You've been very patient with me. It's just that The Base is ~30" with the router bit dead center on 15.. The table center point should be approx ~22" with an estimate of stops 4" in.

I did as you suggested I used 2 30" pieces of wood. Since I am guesstimating that the stops are 4" from either end I come out with 82 inches of travel, and Cutting range of 42.

15 (bit center)- 4 (stop) = 11 to the left side on the tables right. as I move the table to the left I reach the bit with the left side at 11" of travel as I continue for 30" of the sliders length the right side end should travel another 11" past the router bit to the right stop.

Maximum Fence Working Surface....................................................................3 " x 36"

Basically the argument is sound either way since neither of us know the travel length of the table or even the positioning of the miter.....

Your feedback is both highly regarded and appreciated, I'm just a thick Mic.

joe

MODEL G0528 ROUTER TABLE

specs Design Type........................................................................ .............................. Floor Model

Overall Dimensions:

Main Table ............................................................................ ....31" W x 10" D x 13.4" T

Sliding Table ............................................................................ ..............31" W x 12" D

Total Table Surface ............................................................................ ....31" W x 22" D

Overall Height ............................................................................ ..........................42" H

Height From Table To Floor ............................................................................ ....34" H

Overall Width ............................................................................ ............................40"W

Overall Length ............................................................................ ..........................30" D

Shipping Weight ............................................................................ ....................132 lbs.

Net Machine Weight...................................................................... ....................125 lbs.

Box Size ............................................................................ ........351.2" W x 26" D x 8" H

Footprint ............................................................................ ......................40" W x 30" D

Capacities:

Suitable Routers For Mounting..................................................................3.

4 HP - 5 HP

Table Counterbore ............................................................................ ......................31.2"

Table Insert Diameters ............................................................................ ....11.8" & 25.16"

Fence Size ............................................................................ ......3" x 12" (Each Piece)

Maximum Fence Working Surface....................................................................3 " x 36"

Dust Port........................................................................ ..........................................21.2"

Construction:

Main Table ........................................................................Prec ision-Ground Cast Iron

Sliding Table ............................................................................ ......................Aluminum

Fence Assembly.................................................................... ............Aluminum & Steel

Stand ............................................................................ ..............Powder-Coated Steel

Miter Body........................................................................ ..............................Aluminum

Features:

............................................................................ ....................Workpiece Hold-Downs

............................................................................ ......................Clamping Miter Gauge

............................................................................ ............Toggle Switch W/Safety Key

..................................Dual Power Outlets For Convenient Router/Accessory Plug-Ins

......................................................................45° Table Tilt For Easy Router Mounting

............................................................................ ......................................Sliding Table

[HMFIC- 1369]

No the MODEL G0528

[BillyBob]

Guess what? YOU ARE RIGHT! I finally did what I suggested you do - make a model of some sort and play with it. I must admit I was constrained in my thinking by my table saw slider. Its identical functionally. The difference is that the slider is a 75 pound hunk of cast iron. Because of this, the table is highly restricted by the manufacturer on how far it can extend in either direction. In fact, the travel is limited to exactly 50% of the length of the slider. This is intentional, so the center of gravity of the slider does not move past the edge of the table, causing it to try to tip. Its a Jet saw and I would expect their design to be conservative.

So the distance of travel is going to be determined by how the manufacturer has limited the extension in either direction to ensure stability (assuming they limited it at all). I worked out the formula.

Travel distance = Length of slider + (Length of slider/2) - Length of overlap between table and slider

If we assume an overlap of 10", then

Travel distance = 30.75 + (30.75/2) - 10 = 36.125"

If we assume an overlap of 50% of the length, then Travel distance = 30.75 +(30.75/2) - (30.75/2) =30.75"

I posted a drawing in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking.

Maybe we should start a lottery to see what the answer is. Let us know what you learn from Grizzley.

Bob