This is so cool! A 'safety' table saw that detects your finger.

[DamnYankee]

I checked into the Sawstop saw when I was looking for a new cabinet saw. About $3500 delivered to Pennsylvania.

Bryan

[stoutman]

Wrong! It can also be a transitive verb. The below was taken from dictionary.com. Number 2 applys here.

tr.v. man·dat·ed, man·dat·ing, man·dates 1.. To assign (a colony or territory) to a specified nation under a mandate. 2.. To make mandatory, as by law; decree or require: mandated desegregation of public schools. Stick to making jigs.

[Joe]

Jack the saw is amazing, and the post here are also. I posted a question a few month ago when I had a misfire the thread went on for days. But the saw is great will be ordering a second one soon. Joe

[Dave Balderstone]

That's happened in the last 20 years then. I suppose one day "unique" will no longer be an absolute.

Fuck you, too.

And for you, I make an exception to my "don't announce the plonks" rule and announce... Plonk.

[The Davenport's]

So, Joe...what I'm really wondering is when it misfires, does it kill the saw blade? And if so, did the SawStop folk offer to replace it for you?

Mike

[Pete C.]

Morally corrupt a.k.a. unetical.

Trying to use the government to force your failed product onto consumers is about as morally corrupt and unethical as they get. They certainly aren't the first to attempt this of course.

Pete C.

[Pete C.]

The system does indeed destroy the blade when it fires (correctly or incorrectly). The blade is embedded into I believe an aluminum brake shoe of sorts, about the only way to stop it that fast.

I prefer the most reliable safety system i.e. intelligence. I do not place any part of my body in the "line of fire" of the saw blade when I use my saw. This includes not standing in the potential path of thrown wood or blade teeth in addition to keeping fingers safely away from the blade.

Pete C.

[Leon]

Gee Dave I seldom resort to cursing because I generally know how to put into work what I want to say. Goodbye.

[Leon]

I totally agree. I suspect that the misfires were taken care of in a favorable manner.

[Leon]

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote in message news:HfednZhiEKAvz5 [e-mail]...

Do not apologize Jack, you did nothing wrong. This is a holy war for some and some people simply cannot handle the fact that the SawStop exists.

[Devon Miller]

It's ok Jack, some people have issues. I have a SawStop TS and I'm quite happy with it. I may not agree with all their ideals (we must require everyone buy our technology) but they make a very nice saw. I justified the price (~4000 including extension table, 5HP motor, and shipping) by the fact that as a software developer, losing the use of my hand, even temporarily would seriously interfer with my work. And the cost of a single injury could well outweigh the cost of the saw. I'm still cautious when working with it as the technology is not failsafe, but if I scrwe up, it's there.

[Leon]

Good Luck with that.

[dnoyeB]

I don't know about that. However, people have too much babying today. If you stick your finger on the blade, you deserved to loose it. Take your medecine like a man.

Sounds a lot like the insurance industry to me. They will have to grease a lot of pockets to make that happen. Especially not that their cards are on the table.

Yea. And what a bonehead move. Patents only last so long...Anyway I saw this years back and thought it was pretty cool. The guy deserves some money for his invention, but none for any 'extortion' he may try in the future :P

[Leon]

Now you have gone and done it. Dave has Plonked you. I wish he would plonk me.

[stoutman]

Not a big loss.

That's easy. Just ask him how to make a jig to convert a jointer into a bandsaw or a table saw into a drill press or (insert ridiculous jig here)

[Unquestionably Confused]

I think he's trying to say that it's required. Abd perhaps that he's one of those individuals who doesn't like government telling him how to live his life - at least that aspect of his life that concerns primarily his own well-being.

I don't know what dictionary you checked but you have to check beyond the main word entry...

man·date (m?n'd?t') n. An authoritative command or instruction. A command or an authorization given by a political electorate to its representative.

A commission from the League of Nations authorizing a member nation to administer a territory. A region under such administration. Law. An order issued by a superior court or an official to a lower court. A contract by which one party agrees to perform services for another without payment. tr.v., -dat·ed, -dat·ing, -dates. To assign (a colony or territory) to a specified nation under a mandate. To make mandatory, as by law; decree or require: mandated desegregation of public schools.

The above was off the internet. Just to be sure, I checked Webster's New World Dictionary and they also list it as a transitive verb.

Then again, your main point is well taken. Akin to cutting off one's nose to spite their face. I'm not aware of any law being broken in attempting to create a market for one's product through legislation - especially in matters of safety.

If anyone doubts this, simply look back at things like, oh, seatbelts, motorcycle helmets, etc. Which came first? The product or the mandated usage thereof?

[Upscale]

Now, now, lets not bring country insults into it. Especially, considering that you guys down south of us have that dead soldier nut living in your country. Any insults you may throw at us Canadians are dwarfed by some of the miscreants you allow to live in the US.

[Dave Balderstone]

I assume you meant words rather than work... I generally only say what I want to say, too. In this case I sincerely meant to say "Fuck you, too".

I don't mind cursing if I REALLY mean it. Mostly, the people I want to flip off aren't worth a curse, but you, Leon... You get the special treatment.

Be proud.

[Leon]

LOL...

[stoutman]

Your right! Sorry. It was thrown in the heat of the moment. My apologies to all my Canadian buddies! :)

Now thats below the belt. :)

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