That reminds me, 2 weeks ago I went to the local county tax office to
dispute the tax value of my home. As I sat in a room of about 100 people
waiting for someone to see me up comes a lady to the front of the room and
sits down in front of every body. She had about 2 feet of toilet paper
sticking out of the back of her pants. I commended myself silently for not
busting out laughing...
So what? "I" have the same technology at my HOUSE. I took an old
E-Machine, added a Grand e-Guard video capture card
(http://www.grandtec.com/eguard.htm ) from Ebay ($30), a few inexpensive CCTV
cameras from Super Circuits (http://www.supercircuits.com ), and my computer
logs any movement on my property. The software that came with the video
capture card allows a grid to be placed over each camera image and only
movement within that grid will be stored to the hard drive. I can also
access the LIVE video from any other computer.
Crime has increased to the point that I feel the need to now monitor my yard
and house. I already had one camper stolen while I was at work.
(http://www.2manytoyz.com/stolen.html ) A few months back, my replacement
camper was almost stolen too. A neighbor happened to see what was going on
at 4:30 AM. She called the cops and the bad guy beat feet when he saw her,
leaving a stolen truck parked in my yard. Not long before that, a gang of
kids went through all the cars parked outside, breaking in them and stealing
anything they could find. Another neighbor saw them and the cops nabbed a
few, which ratted on the rest. None of the criminals live in the
neighborhood, but apparently, it's worthwhile to "shop" here. Numerous
houses have been robbed.
My images are recorded daily, recorded electronically. I can share them
with the world, but so what. Ya wanna see the meter reader walking through
my yard? Probably no more than he wants to see you at the BORG. Want to
see me at my BORG?... hang out there, I'll be along shortly. Take pictures
if you want.
Ever go to a bank, any chain store, an airport, or even 7-11? You have been
recorded for years, probably daily. As long as you ain't up to nuthin', you
got nuthin' to worry about. The next scumbag that tries something at my
place is in trouble. I'll post their pics online FOREVER, then hunt them
down. --- Insert psychotic laughter here ---
This is highly unlikely. Digital video, even at reduced resolution
and with realtime compression, eats through disk space like you
wouldn't believe. 12 cameras going 24/7 is a lot of bits to store.
No matter how much disk space they install, eventually it's going to
fill up. Then it either has to be deleted or backed up to some other
medium. It's pretty unlikely they would go to the expense of making
the backups and storing them. More likely they have enough disk space
to store as many days as they think is worthwhile to keep.
The real advantage is that with an analog tape the tape is recorded on
over and over again until it degrades to the point of having to be
replaced. With digital you don't have to deal with tape wear, or
cleaning the heads on the vcrs. And a server takes up less space than
a bank of vcrs. But on the other hand, you don't have to worry about
the vcr crashing.
: This is highly unlikely. Digital video, even at reduced resolution
: and with realtime compression, eats through disk space like you
: wouldn't believe. 12 cameras going 24/7 is a lot of bits to store.
: No matter how much disk space they install, eventually it's going to
: fill up. Then it either has to be deleted or backed up to some other
: medium. It's pretty unlikely they would go to the expense of making
: the backups and storing them. More likely they have enough disk space
: to store as many days as they think is worthwhile to keep.
: The real advantage is that with an analog tape the tape is recorded on
: over and over again until it degrades to the point of having to be
: replaced. With digital you don't have to deal with tape wear, or
: cleaning the heads on the vcrs. And a server takes up less space than
: a bank of vcrs. But on the other hand, you don't have to worry about
: the vcr crashing.
The real benefit is the speed at which you can "fast forward" to a time
and date. With a digital system like we have here, I can type in the exact
time I want to view, and the camera. It also has range/zone alerts, which
are usefull for checking afterhour visitors. We keep two weeks of data
here, then it gets overwrittend.
Harddrives have a limit on reading writing also, so they have to be
"cleaned" (trashed) and replaced. Most units don't use windows, so crashing
isn't normally a problem. Things I can do:
1. Verify employee hours, even when I'm not here.
2. Watch individuals with keys during off hours (in the place)
3. Check outgoing stock/ incomming.
4. Know when the mailman came.
I spend less time checking the camera daily than I did writing this.
(Normal non-affiliation garbage here, www.dedicatedmicros.com, model D4)
(Well, some affiliation, I sell them occasionally, but I don't work for
I think they used the word 'indefinitely' incorrectly, probably meaning
they can keep info longer. Statute of limitations would apply to any
'crimes' commited and recorded. Unless someone was murdered, I would see no
reason to keep this data forever.
Not near as much space as you'd think. Even the inexpensive card I have has
300:1 compression. It can also be set to only record movement, which
greatly reduces the amount being recorded. I used a Sylvania 960 hour time
lapse VCR, but recently switched to this:
I can record weeks worth of constant video (not just movement) on the hard
drive. Once the drive is full, it will write over the oldest video if I
select that option. If I ran a business, I could dump a weeks worth of data
on a few DVDs. I just bought Verbatim 4X DVDs at Circuit City for $36 for
That single time lapse VCR was only a single channel. So to record multiple
cameras, either a sequencer is needed, or a quad splitter. This gets to be
more expensive and troublesome than the digital setup. My VCR died a little
over a year after buying it ($399). The computer now recording my video is
5 years old and is still running strong. Oh, and I paid $399 for that
computer too. ;-)
Unlike movies, security videos typically run at a slower frame rate, also
reducing the amount of space needed.
That's the reality of being in PUBLIC. I'm a big privacy advocate
also, but anything I'm doing in public, in full view of anyone who
might be watching, is by definition NOT private, and thus not a privacy
You have a reasonable expectation of privacy in bathroom stalls and
dressing rooms. You don't have it in any place or area where another
person could happen upon you.
I figure that, if I am not doing anything I am ashamed of, why would I
worry about them taking my picture. Of course, I am usually covered
in sawdust when I go in there....
Dick "non-photogenic" Durbin
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