not all car waxes have silicone. I think the trend in automotive
products is away from silicone. one advantage of automotive paste
waxes is that they seem (to me) to be formulated a bit harder than
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:49:40 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I knew commenting to a tablesaw wax thread was a bad idea...
I _know_ they don't all contain it. What I don't know is how to
_prove_ they don't contain it. I don't even let silicone grease into
the wood workshop - it's just far too much trouble when silicones show
up where they shouldn't.
but the fact that it's sold for automotive use is no indicator that it
contains silicone. also,don't assume that products sold for
non-automotive purposes _don't_ contain silicone. I've seen it in the
damnedest of places- spray cans of it for lubricating electrical
equipment, for instance...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:41:37 -0700, email@example.com wrote:
I managed to ruin a few batches of home-brewed oil finish until I
spotted the problem.
I was using an ex- chemistry lab stirrer hotplate for heating my oil.
At some past time, this must have been filled with a silicone oil, as
a bain marie around the flask being heated. The remaining traces in
the bowl were enough to "creep" into the inner flask I was using and
wind up in my oil finish.
That's why I use Bowling Ally Wax or "Butcher's Wax" that is in a can at
nearly every hardware store. I have a 50's era Craftsman TS which I
bought used and waxed the table regularly. No build-up to speak of with
this wax, which I also use on instruments. For reasons too long to
mention , I haven't used the shop for several years and when I stopped I
waxed the saw and today there is nary a spec of rust or anything. And
our basement isn't AC, so in the summer when it's hot/humid, the floor
sweats from being 4 feet below grade and the saw is fine.
"The measure of a man is what he will do
Talc is hazardous because if you get a quantity of it in the air, mixed
with oxygen, it can be an explosive mixture! Just like a grain elevator.
You may remember your chem. teacher putting lycopodium powder in a
container and lighting it...well, talc can do that too! I'd also suppose
that talc in the air in large quantities, should you drop a can of it,
byt the fan in the shop for example, could affect breathing if you had
no mask on, supposing the mask would stop particles that small.
That's why it's hazardous.
"The measure of a man is what he will do
Like hell it can.
It's a fecking silicate ! It's already about as "burned" as you're
going to get it.
Don't tell me - if the dust collector happens to suck it up, static
electricity could discharge and blow the whole workshop up !
Uh, Jim, leaving aside the fact that most of what you say above is just
plain wrong, if this is the way you react to the thought of putting a
little bit of talc on a power tool for rust protection I shudder to think
what your reaction is going to be the first time you see somebody putting
together a batch of cookies.
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
And imagine this scenario. Talc in the air, the dust
collector is collecting and you went and used PVC pipe.
Makes Grandma flying jets (over the Sinai of course) while
putting on make-up kinda pale by comparison.
An old-timer once told me that he used talc on his cast iron saw table, so I
tried some pool cue talc. And with good results. Talc repels moisture, but
without the potential residue of oil. I've used it on all my cast iron saw
tables and on my drill press table for years. It helps materials to slide
on the table, it allows my cutoff sled to slide more easily in the groove of
my table saw, and it has prevented corrosion. I replenish about every two
months or so. I haven't tried it on the ways of the lathe, mostly because
the headstock, tailstock, and banjo all slide on them. For those I use
medium machine oil with good success, aside from the oil/wood dust residue
that builds up. FWIW.
Chemistry: Mg3Si4O10(OH)2, Magnesium Silicate Hydroxide
I wonder if it would be too abrasive for that application anyway? I know
talc is one of the softest mineral, but over time . . . . . .
Jet 1442. I initially considered buying a more expensive lathe, but decided
to invest somewhat more lightly to see if turning was for me. I'll probably
upgrade some day, but for the time being, it's a great lathe at a great
price. Not perfect, but it does everything fairly well and nothing poorly.
It's all cast iron and weighs roughly 360lbs. with the cast legs. With the
sand bags I added to a shelf between the legs it probably totals around
450lbs. Hope this helps.
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